Chicago White Sox

He’s definitely not major league ready, but I’d rather give him one last chance in the upper minors before cutting bait. There is plenty of fat to trim on this 40 man roster. For example, why do we need both Pillar & Grossman? Why did we trade for DeLoach if we won’t even give him a shot when injury opens up an opportunity for him? Save that spot for one of the garbage arms that’s needed to fill innings and keep someone like Popeye or Speas.

Then let’s cut those dudes and not the 22 year old middle infield prospect.

Yeah, not rushing prospects is actually a smart thing Getz is doing. But at some point adding all these bad veterans is counterproductive if you’re out of 40 man space.

You think Speas would have an xERA above 23.0?

Why do we need a 22 year middle infielder with some tools to be major league ready right now? This team isn’t competing any time soon and we should be willing to roster some kids who might be able to provide some value in the future. I get Popeye is a long-shot to be more than a UT guy, but the players we’re keeping over him are pure roster filler and provide zero long-term value. And just to be 100% clear here, if we were DFAing Popeye because we were adding a kid like Montgomery then I wouldn’t be complaining here. I simply don’t like adding more 30+ year olds who don’t move the needle and aren’t good enough to be flipped at the deadline. We have plenty of bad veterans who can provide leadership in the clubhouse already, we don’t need more of them in hopes of Pedro maybe winning one more game this year.

This isn’t just about Popeye for me. Why can’t Speas be given the innings that are going to Leone? What would be the difference in actual production?

Other teams passing on him is irrelevant to the point being made here. Other teams actually have legit talent on their 40 man roster and Popeye isn’t a good prospect to force his way onto every other club’s roster. Our 40 man is lacking proven young talent and has tons of veteran trash that will be gone five months from now. As such, Popeye has more intrinsic value to us than most clubs. Also, when you say we already have “better options on the 40-man”, in what context do you mean? Better to win right now? Better bet to be a long-term solution at some spot?

How is Leone helping us get outs with his 11.57 ERA and 20.32 FIP?

I am really excited for Zavala. Kid looks legit in the videos I’ve seen and his Low A numbers were incredible. I mean, look at this company he’s in:

Honestly, pretty much anyone else, even some of the non 40 man guys at AAA. I’d also rather throw Alex Speas to the wolves than give any innings to either of these guys (and yes, it would probably be a disaster). Also, why did we trade for Horn if he’s not ready to contribute? And what has Josimer Cousin done to warrant a 40 man spot at the moment? Does his ceiling really warrant a spot when we’re forced to cut young talent to make room to pitch garbage innings for the major league team? And I while I’m picking on Leone & Shaw because they are very old and bad, there are plenty of old & bad position players as well. The infield group has a ton of guys who won’t be here next year and/or are just bad. Carrying both Pillar & Grossman seems like a complete waste of limited roster spots. I’m not going to lose sleep over trading Popeye for cash, but the way this 40 man is being managed is highly questionable. Most of thought the veterans they added like DeJong were meant to be cheap placeholders who would be cut when young guys started pushing for roles. The problem is we are now adding more and more of them to turn a steaming pile of s%*# into just a flaming piece of s%*#. I simply don’t get the logic of what Getz is doing here.

And what do you think the league thinks Leone & Shaw are worth?

We don’t need to worry about this. His kids will sell the Sox when he dies. The real concern is Jerry may outlive us and we’ll never know what a non Reinsdorf owner White Sox org operates like.

The offensive additions have all been atrocious so far, but most of these guys should have been expected to be bad. Other than committing to way too many of them, the biggest concern at the moment for me is Fletcher. It’s incredibly early, but I just don’t see an everyday offensive profile with this dude. Hope he picks it up soon, because Grifol won’t continue playing a struggling youngster for long when he’s got other veteran options available to him. At least some of the pitching moves are working out. Fedde & Wilson look really good so far IMO and switching Crochet to the rotation and Kopech seem like moves that could payoff (if managed appropriately). I still don’t get the Tim Hill signing and can’t imagine Flexen being more than an innings dumpster, but at least there are some early signs of Bannister being a quality addition to the org. And Thorpe’s first start at AA is a nice little cherry on top.

Yes, they valued a bunch of bad veterans over a kid who could possibly be something. We are going to lose 100+ games and continue to age up this roster with old rentals who won’t move the needle. It’s not about the specific players being DFAed…it’s about the general roster management in which an organization completely lacking in young players keeps ridding themselves of them.

More word vomit from the dumbest man in baseball

What happened with Robert and how bad did it look?

Yup, absolute clown show.

That lineup is sexy as f***

Fucking gross…Getz continues to age up a 100 loss roster completely lacking in young talent

I like Garcia regardless of a bad night. Leone on the other hand is simply Grifol’s new Shaw.

Let’s be honest, half these dudes are future White Sox, so Getz is probably creaming his pants right now

lol…literally was getting ready to turn the TV and then Leone gives up that bomb and know I want to see how bad it can get.

We kept Dominic Leone over Popeye…what a clownshow organization

Alright, time to do something more productive with my life.

Why am I still watching this s%*# show?