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Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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Your small sacrifice is much appreciated by the rest of us. -
I will 100% agree with this. I know I’ve said some horrible, mean spirited things on this board and the mods have always given me an opportunity to redeem myself before receiving a suspension. The mods here do a tremendous balancing all the bullshit.
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Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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I think it’s a bit premature to say Moncada couldn’t be a 5 win 3B if we moved him there, but I agree it’s much easier to quickly build a competive roster with Machaso manning 3B. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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One other plus in our cap for Machado is we now have three of his teammates from the 2017 WBC in Castillo, Colome, & Nova. We know he’s close with Welington, but maybe he’s got a strong connection with the other two guys as well. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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I’m with you. I want long-term assets if I’m helping the Dodgers get Harper. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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I agree, we need to land one of these guys no matter the cost. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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It should or else teams would have a huge incentive to add tons of years for low salaries after an opt out. It would happen far more frequently. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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Sorry, I framed that up poorly. Let’s say you agree to the below hypothetical deal: Years 1 - 4: $50M per Opt-out Year 5 - 10: $20M per That deal would have an AAV of $32M. For luxury tax purposes, if the player were to opt-out, there is no way the Dodgers would get away with only realizing a $32M hit those first four either. Either the structured deal above would be treated as two separate contracts for luxury tax purposes (as if the post opt-out term is an option) or this would be adjusted retrospectively. My guess is it’s the former because tax payers forfeit different draft picks when signing tendered free agents, but that’s just me speculating. Regardless, there should no way to game the system. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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I actually don’t get it from the Dodgers perspective unless they get him for a steal. Teams like us are willing to pay a premium because of his intangibles and the potential revenue that come with. The Dodgers won’t reap those same benefits and on a standalone baseball move, $350M for Harper is somewhat ridiculous. Plus Friedman values depth / flexibility and has never signed a free agent to a $100M contract despite having the financial means with the Dodgers. I truly believe Bryce would love to go to LA, but I don’t see them coming close to what a team like the White Sox would offer. Just my option though. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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Wouldn’t an opt-out potentially have huge luxury tax implications? If they front load a contract to minimize the AAV prior to the opt-out, surely there would be an adjustment if Bryce exited the contract to ensure the Dodgers contributed their fair share towards the luxury taxes. Just like with income taxes, there is no way to game the system. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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The Familia stuff is news to me and would love to hear more about our pursuits there. Regardless, my argument isn’t about the Sox, but rather that the Phillies have yet to live up to “stupid spending” statement. That doesn’t mean they can’t go all out for Machado, but I don’t think we should just assume they’ll blow us out of the water. So far, they have been pretty measured in their pursuits. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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Yup, amazing what a few suspensions can do for the quality of the site! -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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Exactly, they weren’t willing to blow out the competition for much more affordable targets, why do we think they’ll be any less measured when it comes to $300M+ deals? I have no doubts the Phillies are prepared to make a massive offer, but this idea they’ll do whatever it takes to land a whale is all speculation at this point. All teams have their limits and I think an Andy MacPhail led front office will hold his ground at some point. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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The Cubs are operating as a business under the Ricketts and I know for a fact they have to adhere to a budget right now. They’d have to move significant salary to have any chance at Bryce. And I don’t think the Cubs make important decisions with much consideration for the Sox, they only care what’s in their best interests. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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The Phillies got outbid for Corbin & Happ, maybe you need to rethink what “Philly ridiculous” means. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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This is all true and I’m guessing he’d rather go elsewhere, but who else would offer as much as the Sox, especially if the Phillies are out? To me, it almost seems like we’re destined for an arranged marriage if he’s looking for top dollar. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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They wouldn’t be wasting their time if they weren’t prepared to make a ridiculous offer, not when the Yankees are involved. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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For who though? -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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But there is reason to believe both of these teams are adhering to budgetary issues in the short-run. The Dodgers also seem unwilling to take on a massive long-term commitment, which aligns with Friedman’s history as a GM. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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Which is the most likely scenario. I still maintain all the Yankees (Machado) & Dodgers (Harper) hype/speculation is agents using the typical big spenders to force the team eager to spend to up their bids. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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No one for Sox. Bryce to Dodgers and Machado to the Phillies. -
Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?
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Do they though? San Diego is barely a top 30 media market and he’d have to pay the ridiculous California state taxes for half his games. I just don’t see it, even if it’s close to Las Vegas.