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The Cuban pipeline outside of Robert & Ramos has not paid off.
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I think there is reason to be excited by the pitching. If Crochet can hold up and Nastrini & Cannon can hold their own, you could quickly have 60% of a rotation ready to go. Throw in Thorpe and one of Eder / Iriarte or a veteran free agent and the rotation could turn around pretty quickly.
The offense is a challenge though and even with Montgomery, Ramos, Quero, and maybe Baldwin hitting the scene by next year, we still have a ton holes to fill. Jerry will have to spend to improve the lineup quickly, but the good news is we’re talking about the OF corners, 1B, & DH. The problem it’s a really bad free agent class for positional guys, so the margin for error will be incredibly thin.
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5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:
Turns out nastrini got pneumonia which was the only reason his start was pushed back
I take back what I said then…🤦♂️
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2 minutes ago, WestEddy said:
He strikes me as a Tony Phillips spark plug. Option Vaughn.
Yeah, it’s time to send Vaughn down and let him work through his s%*#. There is literally nothing to lose in doing so as he’s a legit non-tender candidate next off-season if he doesn’t substantially improve by then.
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1 minute ago, Falstaff said:
With the first pick in the 2025 MLB Draft the Chicago White Sox select........
I got bad news for you…
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Our run differential currently sits at -51 or -3.4 on a per game basis, which ranks dead last in the league and by wide margin. For reference, the Marlins are the next worse team at -35 or -2.2 per game or ~35% less bad than us.
The offense has scored 34 runs or 2.3 per game. The lowest offensive output since the addition of the DH in the AL is the 2010 Mariners at 3.2 per game, which is ~40% higher than our current production. I truly believe that this squad will challenge that record, even if the offenses can’t be this bad forever.
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40 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:
Meh. I’d rather have none of them and just let Fletcher, Colas and DeLoach soak up as many ABs as possible. You still have to play Benintendi for obvious reasons and and Robert will be back in 5-6 weeks.
Pham, Grossman and pillar accomplish nothing at this point.
There is room for one RH outfielder though and Pham is better than the junk we are currently trotting out there. I also think Colas has to show he can hit AAA pitching for a longer period of time before I throw to the wolves. I would call up DeLoach since he probably hit about as well as he can at AAA last year.
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11 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:
It’s basic. As long as JR is owner you need to know those things and run your franchise knowing you need to sell players a year early, knowing you won’t sign a major fa deal (so if you want someone acquire them with a few years left on a deal), and thus build knowing those limitations.
100% true.
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9 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:
I doubt it. Getz literally said Friday that Robert may only miss 6 weeks. Seems unlikely to make that statement and then guarantee 8 weeks 72 hours later. Davis Martin 60 day is my guess.
And good for the Sox to secure the extra year. 32 starts of a potentially decent to good SP in a potentially competitive season >>>>> 2 more starts in a punted one.
Oh I misinterpreted what he said then, I thought he was saying he’d only be out another six weeks which would make it very close to eight total.
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26 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
Agreed, but wasn’t it pretty much the no brainer decision?
Yes, but the dude doesn’t have a track record and the rumor coming out of camp was Nastrini was going to make the opening day roster. Getz just dicked around for two weeks without a 5th buy this extra year of control. I may not agree with everything his done, but at least he realizes the value of an extra year of control in a Reinsdorf owned organization.
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16 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:
He looked the part in ST. I honestly think the only reason he was even sent down is to get an extra year of control.
I’m sure I’ll get flamed for this, but I actually love that Getz pulled this off. I really thought he’d burn the extra year of control for the sake being different, but he handled this correctly and it’s a good sign of how he’ll handle in the future.
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17 minutes ago, WestEddy said:
I read someone surmise Robert to the 60-day IL
Interesting…had not seen that yet. Actually makes sense though as it sounds like Robert will miss at least two months.
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4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
It doesn’t matter either way. It’s rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic. What is the value in not being historically bad? Hopefully, JR is embarrassed even worse by this season as he commented on last season, but I doubt it forces him to do anything out of the ordinary. It’s pretty obvious that Grifol will be the “fall guy” for this awful season.
We’re going to be extremely bad not matter what, but setting the all time loss record isn’t actually good for us and will suck for the handful of young players that will have to endure. I’m as bitter as any Sox fan, but this signing should be viewed as a positive, even if it doesn’t really change all that much.
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3 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:
Sure. He will be good for a week or two of hope, until we all realize there's a reason he wasn't signed by anyone, and he's just as washed up as the rest of the guys Getz signed. Why not? Lol
Pham was actually good last year though. The reason he hasn’t signed yet is because of his age (and risk of a fall-off) and him probably overvaluing himself. But regardless of all that, we have nothing to lose by signing him and he might immediately be the best hitter in the lineup.
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3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
Of course he is. He’s old (36) like the rest of Getz’s acquisitions and no one else wanted him, also like Getz’s acquisitions.
Further proof that Bob Nightengale is JR’s lap dog.
There is zero downside from this move. He’s almost certainly going to be dirt cheap and better than the other RH OF options. There is value in not being historically bad as long as they don’t sacrifice the development of their young players (and there isn’t a young RH OF in AAA worth a damn).
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1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:
Which one goes?
Pham is right-handed and can't play CF...so one would think it's Grossman, not that it even matters in the slightest at this point.
Yeah, I’m honestly not sure. My guess is Grossman, but Pham is better than both of them.
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4 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:
He got absolutely crushed in AAA? Yeah, he struck out 13, but gave up 12 hits and 3 walks? Why are we excited for this, and why are the Sox rushing him to the MLB, when he's pitched exactly two games in AAA? Do people really think he's ready?
It’s a two game sample and I believe he was sick during his first start. The peripherals are good and he looked ready during the spring. I’m supportive of the move.
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No brainer signing. Glad Getz is not content with Pillar & Grossman.
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3 minutes ago, ScootsMcGoots said:
When does Clevinger start pitching?
Sounds like a couple weeks out
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46 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said:
Eder looks like he might be broken. Shame. Sucks.
Idk why he came here and immediately started to suck.
Thanks for posting this. He’s going to figure out his s%*# almost immediately now.
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10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
Leone?
Sorry, my wife is Italian and has a “De” at the front of her last name so I will accidentally add to random names from time to time
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I think DeLeone gets DFA’d to make room on the 40.
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Great news! And kudos to Getz as I believe this gives us another year of team control with him.
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1 hour ago, wegner said:
I made a deal with my better half of pizza once a month.....so if you ever need any help with that tavern style
lol! Good tavern style pizza is something I couldn’t give up. I applaud your conviction though man. You are a lot strong than I am.
Nastrini and Cannon to be Called Up
in Pale Hose Talk
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Is Cannon going to stick in the rotation or will he get demoted to AAA as soon as Clevinger is ready? Seems like Nastrini is safe with Flexen moving to the pen, but this team is a lot more fun with two legit youngsters in the rotation.