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  1. QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 28, 2018 -> 09:22 AM) I hope the refs don't screw Illinois tonight. It would be a shame to miss out on the annual beatdown from Michigan in the BTT.
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    NCAA basketball thread 2017-18

    QUOTE (Da_Goob @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 09:44 PM) If none of the freshmen turn into legit players outside of Frazier then Underwood is awful at evaluating players. I think Smith and Damonte will be fine players when it's all said and done. They've both shown flashes this year. Smith has looked horrible most of the season. Not saying he won't ever work out, but I'm not counting on him until he starts playing better. Damonte has played well as a role player, though, you're right.
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    NCAA basketball thread 2017-18

    QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 09:27 PM) My enthusiasm for Underwood is officially wavering. Kind of a broken record here, but I think it's talent more than anything. They've just got nothing. Dosunmu helps next year, but they need to find about 5 other legit players.
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    NCAA basketball thread 2017-18

    Illinois has zero talent outside of Black and Frazier right now.
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    NCAA basketball thread 2017-18

    QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 10:27 AM) I mean, their defense is very good (taking into consideration their complete lack of size) and their offense gets them plenty of open shots. I think the "system" is working out just fine. I'm shocked at how poorly this team shoots the ball, especially from 3. I would have bet a lot of money that Finke was going to thrive and average 15+ a game, but he can't hit the broad side of a barn. Their best players are Black, Frazier and Williams. So you're relying heavily on freshman. The positive is that they make a lot of great plays, plays with ahtleticism we haven't seen in a while. There's a lot of potential there. But they're freshman, so they also make awful, untimely mistakes. Mark Smith has been a little bit of a disappointment but he's making typical (and correctable) freshman mistakes. Alstork...I mean I don't know what I expected but he's not the Rayvonte Rice transfer I thought he was going to be. He made so many bone-headed plays in that Minnesota game. Who else is worth anything? Aaron Jordan was a nice story early but I knew that shooting was never going to last just looking at his form. Kipper Nichols is an absolute bust. He's Brian Randle (crazy good athleticism without the skills to match) 10 years later. Lucas didn't take a step in year 2. My glass half full side still says this is a team that should be 2-1 in the big ten if they could just inbound the ball two times. My glass half empty side says that they're 16 games in which is enough of a sample size to show they're not a good shooting team. The offense isn't going to get much better. It's been good so far, but I wonder how sustainable the defense will be into conference play. We're going to get exposed a bit without a rim protector, imo.
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    NCAA basketball thread 2017-18

    QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 10:13 AM) Michigan is finally playing pretty well! (Looks at schedule next week and sees Purdue and MSU) Damnit! Just wait until Illinois rolls into Ann Arbor tomorrow. /green
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    2017-18 NCAA Football Thread

    QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 27, 2017 -> 09:13 AM) The talent they had this year was MAC level, and not high end MAC. The freshmen played because they were better than juniors and seniors, which is terrible. I also saw improvement from individuals but the team has a lot of work to do. But it’s hard to evaluate with so many freshmen playing. Next year should give us a better indication if this is going to work. If love can get us to 7 wins consistently then he was worth every penny. I think we are all seeing the true effect of Beckmann, scandal, Cubit. This wasn't true at every position.
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    2017-18 NCAA Football Thread

    QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 26, 2017 -> 04:11 PM) That is how you build a program. Barry Alvarez got about half of Wisconsins roster to leave just based off off season workouts. He sucked for a couple of years. Lovie and his coaches apparently don't want Beckman's players and it appears to be a smart decision. I'm fine with what they're doing, but people use the freshman start numbers as a crutch. It's their prerogative if they decide to leave a RB with 6 ypc for his career on the bench because they want to start their freshman with 3 ypc. There honestly aren't many Beckman players left. Something like 8 seniors this year.
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    2017-18 NCAA Football Thread

    QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 26, 2017 -> 12:33 PM) Unlike most coaches 2 years in, Louie has only had one of his own recruiting classes in uniform. They played more true freshmen than any other school. If they jack Lovie if they suck next year, which they will, they will never be good. I think the bigger concern for Illinois would be if Lovie decides he doesn't need this. The Beckman hire was one of the worst of all time. He gets 4 years regardless, but they purposefully inflated that freshmen number. They pretty much refused to play anybody they didn't recruit.
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    2017-18 NCAA Football Thread

    QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Nov 26, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) What people forget when they talk about Illinois football is that this is a program that is post scandal. If it weren't for the horror at Baylor, Illinois would have been the in scandal. When Beckman took over from Zook, he had some good talent. Beckman made players play through injuries and destroyed the program. Lovie Smith may not be a great college coach, but he should get all the time he needs. No team has success with a O-Line of Freshmen in the B1G. Next year is a big year for Lovie. If he can't find a way to show some sort of progress on the field or a not bottom of the B1G recruiting class, he's pretty done for IMO. He probably already is, but I need to have some hope for something.
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    NCAA basketball thread 2017-18

    QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 04:28 PM) He's not a third tier coach that would have hurt a player to stay with him. He's a coach that has relied on a slow pace too often. There's a difference. This is true.
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    NCAA basketball thread 2017-18

    For what little it's worth, I also don't think Cuonzo is a very good coach. Felt that way when Illinois fans wanted him more than anything and still feel that way now.
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    Competitive Balance picks announced

    QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 01:08 PM) You could have added "White Sox not given any". I don't think they're eligible, are they?
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    NCAA basketball thread 2017-18

    QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 23, 2017 -> 10:21 PM) What is the beef about? This is so childish. I swear this only happens to Illinois. This is unreal. If Ayo and THT are fine playing together, isn't that all that should matter? If the parents are the issue then have them sit in different sections or something. Ayo's credibility will take a big hit if this were to happen. I feel like you're answering your own question here.
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