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10 minutes ago, Green Line said:
The trajectory of this team is clearly veering into Oakland A's territory. The fans are abandoning en masse and soon Jerry will publicly turn on them and threaten relocation.
The ballpark looks unusually empty tonight - even more so than normal.
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If a team is going to be bad, then be good at being bad. I don’t want a middle of the road team like the Bulls because that still gives people hope. “All we need is a left handed slugger named Adam and we are golden!”. Nah I want them to be historically bad and lose 120+ games. That way everyone knows that it will take a complete tear down and rebuild to win again.
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17 hours ago, nrockway said:
I'm still in the camp that firing Hahn/Williams earned enough good will to give Getz some time. There are young players on this team worth rooting for. The pitching situation seems genuinely good and a handful of position players could be mainstays for a long time. Chances are that I'm watching more minor league ball than the White Sox this year though.
The "good will" is lost if they don't spend any money next year to improve the team. I expected a punt season and so it is. Even if the team on the field is worse than I thought it would be, I had no expectations except for individual players' progress. But there's no reason that next year should be and there are real opportunities to add useful non-superstar free agents at positions of need, unlike this past free agency cycle. My hope is that the money not spent this year will be spent next year and if that hope isn't realized, I'm probably in the same position as you "f*** all these guys, burn it down".
I said before that the only free agents who will sign with the White Sox are players like Tommy Pham who have nowhere else to go. I’m sure players talk about this organization and this owner. How can they have any confidence that the owner is willing to do the things it takes to win?
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10 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:
I believe this too to be honest. With the way they slashed as much payroll as possible this past off-season while bringing in washed veterans, it feels like the only explanation.
Not to mention hiring a GM from within instead of hiring someone from the outside that a new owner will probably jettison whenever they took ownership.
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6 hours ago, Tony said:
Yeah, Sox fans really should just accept being one of the worst franchises in sports, smile, bend over and just enjoy the dissent into total embarrassment of a 100+ year franchise.
Bunch of pansies, I tell ya
Sox fans should stop giving money to an owner who cares more about his bottom line than he does about winning. The White Sox are as bad as the Oakland A’s.
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3 hours ago, Texsox said:
Liam came because of TLR.
Liam signed to a young team that was on the come up. That is not this team.
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The only free agents who would sign here are the players on the tail end of their career and have no other place to go. This is a team full of nomads just glad to have a job because no one else would sign them. This team, this organization is garbage and no one wants to come here. Why would a highly sought after free agent want to commit to a team with an owner who’s never signed a contract over $100 million? Even if he signed one, would he sign another if that is what is needed to win?
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16 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
Load up with a bunch of David Eckstein types. Lose a ton of games. The fact that the team is awful shouldn't surprise anyone. Everyone seemed to know it except the White Sox. Again.
Paying your hard earned money to go see this team is only making it worse. There should be no real White Sox fans in the stadium because it only prolongs the ineptitude of this organization. Maybe the old guy will sell if no one shows up.
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20 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
He didn't want to go outside. He hated Larry Himes, because Larry had no use for JR's ideas. Getz will listen to Jerry, and he will "waste" the rest of the decade.
Getz will listen to JR and TLR and that is what makes JR comfortable.
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5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:
What’s crazy is that Yoan put up a 5.5 fWAR season in 2019. While he got a little lucky with the bat that year, his quality of contact was insane with his average exit velocity sitting in the 98th percentile. Combine that with plus plus defense and above average base-running and we had a star on our hands. As just a 24 year old, there was reason to believe Yoan could offset the luck regression with better swing decisions and maintain that level of production moving forward.
Unfortunately after signing his extension and after getting COVID in 2020, he just couldn’t replicate that performance, partially due to health reasons and partially what I attribute to drive. It also didn’t help that the dude constantly mixed up his offensive approaches, flexing between extreme patience and the balanced aggressiveness he demonstrated in 2019. Despite that, he did post a 4 fWAR season in 2021 on the heels of a career best 13.6% walk rate.
Yoan will forever be considered a bust in White Sox history, but that will always be due to not achieving his vast ceiling rather than being a complete flop like so many Sox prospects before him. I truly believed that Moncada & Robert would regularly put up a combined 10 fWAR seasons and it’s sad we’ll never get that level of production even once. Such a waste of physical talent, but alas that’s the 2022 & 2023 White Sox in a nutshell and Yoan is certainly the poster boy.
I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but I believe those players started declining when the White Sox got rid of Rick Renteria and replaced him with Tony La Russa.
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He’s 5’6” with average speed. That doesn’t sound like a good combination for an outfielder.
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I’ll believe this when I see it. The city of Chicago shouldn’t give Jerry Reinsdorf another dime. Taxpayers shouldn’t have to fund stadiums for billionaire owners.
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I’m still waiting on the Angels to sign Tim Anderson. I think Ron Washington would be a big help getting him back on track.
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52 minutes ago, Highland said:
This is what you get when you really don't have a major league roster. Just get bodies in there because you have no one else. Next season has the potential to be more embarrassing than the last one.
I want them to lose 120 games.
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10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
Exactly. Getz is literally overpaying washed up bums at this point, and you could argue that they shouldn’t even be receiving anything but a minor league deal.
Months ago I said that the White Sox won’t be able to attract any viable free agents and the only player they’ll be able to sign are those who are near or at the end of their careers and can’t get a job anywhere else. This is really embarrassing.
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10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
Meet the new GM of the White Sox, same as the previous GM, and the previous GM before him.
Because it’s not the GM, it’s the owner.
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13 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:
This statement is ludicrous. Jerry Reinsdorf and Bud Selig killed the Expos in 1994 and Jeff Loria defiled the corpse a few years later. John Fisher inherited the Gap from his mommy and daddy, demanded a new taxpayer funded real estate empire because entitlement / privilege. He overplayed his hand and will end up making far less than he would have staying in the Bay Area, as he gets zero real estate at the Tropicana site vs. the Wild Wild West site blocked by Nevada Unions.
What Should Have Happened:
- The Rays build a stadium in Tampa or Montreal, not a second one in Saint Petersburg.
- The A's build a stadium at the Howard Terminal or Oakland.
- Expansion to Nashville and Montreal
Restore League and Playoff Integrity:
Interleague Eliminated, All Playoffs Best of Seven, Four Division Winners in the ALDS.
- Realigns divisions in a better geographical and time zone alignment.
- Minimizes historical rivalries / league alignment by limiting shifting teams to recent expansion clubs (Colorado, Miami), with Kansas City ownership and fans likely supporting the switch (and they have been American League since 1955. Milwaukee in the AL North and Minnesota in the NL North probably makes more sense, but Milwaukee will squeal like a pig losing Cubbie fan tickets revenue.
American League
- East: 3 Baltimore, 5 Boston, 10 New York, 6 Toronto
- North: 5 Chicago, 2 Cleveland, 4 Detroit, 4 Minnesota
- South: 7 Houston, 6 Miami, 3 Tampa Bay, 8 Texas
- West: 3 Colorado, 2 Las Vegas, 6 Los Angeles, 4 Seattle
National League
- East: 4 Montreal, 10 New York, 6 Philadelphia, 6 Washington
- North: 5 Chicago, 2 Kansas City, 2 Milwaukee, 3 Saint Louis
- South: 6 Atlanta, 2 Cincinnati, 2 Nashville, 2 Pittsburgh
- West: 5 Arizona, 6 Los Angeles, 3 San Diego, 5 San Francisco
# = MSA Population in Millions (Split Markets are divided by two for this exercise)
What will likely happen:
- NBA Style East / West Conferences - Obliterate Historical 125 - 150 year League Alignments
- 16-24 Playoff Teams Including Play In Games
- Make Games Seven Innings & Replace Extra Innings With Home Run Derby - Limited to Regular Season at First, Followed by Playoff Expansion.
Best of 7 series should only be for league championships and World Series. I’m fine with best of 3 in the opening round. That’s what’s wrong with the NBA… too many damn teams and too many damn playoff games. It makes the regular season worthless.
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56 minutes ago, chetkincaid said:
You know, I would agree with this line of thinking if Reinsdorf and the rest of the owners sold tickets for $5, or if they didn't black out every radio telecast out of market. Owners are greedy and they charge us premium prices to consume their product, so I feel like they are obligated to spend on premium talent.
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9 hours ago, tray said:
No, JR and the Sox and for that matter, Ricketts and the Cubs are not cheap or foolish for not risking tremendous amounts of money on these mega player contracts
(including betting .7 Billion on a soon to be 30 yr old Ohtani with 2 arm surgeries and 0 WS Titles )
In fact, more owners, including the perennial big players like the Yankees and Dodgers should do the same. MLB needs a salary cap of some sort to finally harness this issue and achieve some kind or parity and competitiveness. Fan complaints about which owners spends and which do not have become an old axe to grind every year. Here things have devolved into cruel posts with questionable motives about JR being "cheap" and even wishing for his passing. It really has gotten to be ridiculous.
You know, I would agree with this line of thinking if Reinsdorf and the rest of the owners sold tickets for $5, or if they didn't black out every radio telecast out of market. Owners are greedy and they charges us premium prices to consume their product, so I feel like they are obligated to spend on premium talent.
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13 hours ago, joejoesox said:
the solution is to stop caring about the white sox until they're no longer 💩
Call me a Fairweather fan but this is exactly where I am. I refuse to spend another minute of my life being angry about a professional sports team with a billionaire owner who doesn't give a s%*#. It must be really nice to be a fan of a team with an owner that actually tries to win. I'll be a fan again once JR is gone.
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43 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:
Paul Dejong is a.192/.265/.353 hitter since the start of 2021
Lmaooooooooooo
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13 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:
All Good points and makes sense but I’m going to add that maybe these clowns weren’t wild about the firing of Renteria and being replaced by a guy who was past his prime and was just about brain dead in LaRussa. Not that it matters but I was incensed when JR hired TLR, JR has made tons of bad decisions in his 42 years as owner but the hiring LaRuusa is right up there as maybe the worst.
This right here x100. Firing Renteria and bringing in a corpse who lives by baseball’s silly “unwritten rules” broke the spirit of this team. It was an energetic, fun, “change the game” kind of a team under Renteria and I truly believe they would have been much better off leaving him alone and bringing in some pitching reinforcements. It wasn’t Renteria’s fault that the major free agent signing at the time, Mr “Winning Culture” Dallas Keuchel s%*# the bed in the playoffs against Oakland.
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Wow the national news is all over this. The White Sox are getting absolutely roasted on twitter.
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4/22: Sox @ Twins - 640CT - Cannon v. Paddack
in 2024 Season in Review
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Steve Stone will start being critical of the White Sox the minute Jerry Reinsdorf sells. You watch.