Mr. Showtime

Appreciate the information. Very sad situation and unfortunate because as you noted this was the opportune time to strike and change the franchise for the next 5 years at least and their desire to not want to over spend hurt them.

I try to keep up with you on Twitter so I might have seen some of it there. The whole thing is just so frustrating as many have said, had they came out of the gate at 8 and 280 or something things could've been much different.

I see. They were fine paying over $300 million if he was still productive after 8 years but not upping the off above 300 within the 8 years? Just seems so silly with so much money to be made by his arrival had it occurred.

Shack, do you have any reason to believe that if they saw the Padres as a serious threat they would've offered a better deal over 8 years guaranteed?

Not much of an issue if it isn't the Sox but, when do we guess Harper signs?

Seems like Harper really is down to just the Phillies unless there are other teams in it we don't know of. Hopefully the Sox at least make a true competitive offer and maybe his percieved lack of interest in Philly helps.

I haven't posted much since I'm on a work trip and just following on my phone. It doesn't seem from what I've read that Rick and Kenny have their story in sync. I think it might've been you in another thread who said this 300 million thing was just a cop out answer because they didn't want to say they didn't believe the 300 million offer was out there. Edit: I see you said it in this thread, sorry.

Certainly it would be nice to sign Harper. I know Rabbit said he doesn't expect it to happen, what I don't quite understand is why would they get involved even "in secret" if they can't or won't get past 300 million guaranteed? We know Boras won't sign for anything less than Manny. Do they think Bryce really doesn't want Philly bad enough to take 315 or something from them?

I use this site and Twitter to get rumors most of the time. Maybe they thought his price would be low? Maybe if he is a Boras guy they thought of a package deal to try and help get Bryce? I get that until the Sox land him we should all be skeptical that it will happen, I just don't think that one thing means a lot.

My post didn't go through. My point more or less was I don't get how Moustakas going back to the Brewers means Manny is going to the Padres. If he got 1 year and 10 million from the Brewers, why would the Padres a team who seems to be a year or two away sign him?

Are the Padres a few years away even if they land Manny like the Sox? If so, why would they feel compelled to sign Moustakas either way? I could see the Phillies grabbing him as a back up option if they still needed someone at 3rd. You had the tweet earlier about Manny and the Yankees as well and Simenotti claims talk or gut feeling he still goes to NY. Who knows what is going on. Maybe Manny does go to SD but I'm not sure Moustakas is the lynch pin.

I like this, lol. Don't even care if it's true or not with the Padres.

Have we all forgotten about the rawlings gloves photo?

I'm sure in this thread we've beaten every point to death but now that we're close it seems here's the main question. Are the Sox going to die on an opt out hill if the Padres are willing to give him one after 2 or 3 years? I truly cannot believe given where their payroll is, the money spent for Alonso and Jay that they are going to let money be their hill to die on. If the Padres go to 300 and we're at 260, 40 million over 7-8-9 years cannot be the deciding factor for the type of jolt Manny would give this fan base.

Anything happening on instagram with Manny or Alonso?