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  1. The Ultimate Champion

    Addison Reed trade from DBacks' perspective

    QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 20, 2014 -> 05:01 PM) Good stuff there, Ultimate. TYVM! I will rate your profile 5 stars! Above in this thread hi8is mocked my long, essay-like posting habits so I'm glad someone at least reads them (other than caulfield who reads everything). But he's right though, my posts are seriously FRAT most the time. Oh well. I've been stuck in front of my computer a lot more than usual these last couple weeks having to/choosing to work on some things I'm not really that good at/don't want to do, and so I start on/resume something, then I just click on SoxTalk and start thinking about baseball and piss the time away. Then I get all in depth about it and really, it's just all an escape for me, when my brain doesn't want to focus on what it really needs to focus on (work, life) I open my browser and go here. But I really do need to stop posting here, I do it way too much now and really sports just don't matter anyway. I always know that, but then sometimes I f*** up and start thinking about baseball again. What a happy little escape sports are. I know I can't be the only one that thinks that way. So anyway I'm glad someone reads some of this s*** I type. It's funny because I think the nature of this thread dovetails fairly well with what I'm saying. Sports are so easy to be opinionated about, you can lash out at, defend, define, detail in depth, anything you like right on down the rabbithole until you're just lost in it. But it really doesn't matter. Matt Davidson really doesn't matter, neither did Reed, this trade like the majority of baseball trades, 10 years from now is porbably best described as a non-event. But holy s*** can these things be drug out into the open and beaten down into pulp & pudding. That's one thing I'm great at. Hahn's doing a fine job overall, nothing wrong with him at all, and there was never anything wrong with KW either IMO. But b****ing about it all and arguing over it all is at least something, it's at least engaging if not always fun, and seems a lot more benign in terms of its overall counterproductivity than it really is. It's just funny because no matter what there is so much depth in baseball and so much history and it's such a massive part of our culture that it's completely impossible to ever permanently resolve anything, like all these themes just keep repeating themselves year after year, and somehow the subject matter seems fresh when its really not. The game of baseball is really bottomless, but rather than a pit its more like a gopher hole where eventually you're right back on the surface looking at the same thing from a different vantage point. But it's just a total waste of time really. Maybe it's just best to be a casual fan, and never pay attention to anything, never look at anything in detail, because then you don't get sucked in. But then you could still get sucked into something else. Baseball is my little sickness but goddamn what a waste of time. At least its not video games & porn, or drugs or tv or something. Not as bad but still a waste of time. I've now just wasted whatever time it took my to type this, f*** it I'm going to make some coffee. So thanks for reading this stuff, I think I'm going to quit this site for a while. I'm sure Hahn is going to be really busy & if we're going to spend some money we've got a real shot at contention with Danks not in the rotation & Rodon in there instead. December will be fun.
  2. The Ultimate Champion

    Addison Reed trade from DBacks' perspective

    QUOTE (hi8is @ Sep 20, 2014 -> 01:06 PM) Yeah I guess I could have just posted "poop," sorry.
  3. The Ultimate Champion

    Addison Reed trade from DBacks' perspective

    For all we know the Davidson deal was a blessing in disguise, kind of along the line DA was talking about earlier, how one move affects another. Davidson hitting .199 in Charlotte is bad but none of us give a s*** what the Knights do, we just care about what he does in MLB. But even if he hit .299 with the same or better power numbers and a lot better contact then it still wouldn't necessarily make it as a MLB player. However had Davidson put out a very good year instead of a very bad year then Hahn probably keeps a spot open on the 2015 MLB roster for him, and who knows, that could have ended up a mistake. As it is now, Davidson's bad year keeps him out of the picture & makes Hahn think about making another move he otherwise wouldn't have thought about making. If that move, then, is the one that really makes us better then how much all things considered has Davidson's bad AAA season hurt us? If Davidson or any other MiLB is going to bomb out on *us* before we are able to trade him and capitalize on his present value, then ideally that bombing occurs away from the MLB club where it actually has an on-field impact.
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    Ventura unlikely to be fired this off season

    QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 20, 2014 -> 12:20 PM) Perhaps I should have said irrelevant when it comes to defense. So you think Robin should be s***canned but we should hire a guy who's defense has been MUCH worse defensively? As you can tell by my signature I firmly believe that managers simply put their players in a position to win and it's up to the players to execute. I think that you need a guy who can: 1) deal with the clubhouse, get the players to play for him/not quit on him, deal with personal stuff, have player conversations 2) deal with the media/keep the players focusing on baseball as much as possible, keep stuff out of & away from the media people 3) communicate with the other coaches & FO 4) properly identify the strengths and weaknesses of his own players, know when the challenge them, who to challenge, what to expect Player A to do and what to demand Player A do as well as what to never ask him to do, etc., and this is true whether you're a winner like the Tigers or a loser like us 5) know what kind of team you have & what kind of team you need to be, and try to do that 6) managers don't necessarily "win" ballgames but they can try to put their players in as many advantageous situations as possible to make the best use of their abilities as possible 7) be open-minded enough to recognize when and where to draw lines between old, crusty & ineffective baseball procedures (like managing for 8 innings as though the game matters & then turning your brain off in the 9th & "living and dying" with your closer) and things which are new but not necessarily better, i.e. overuse of the shift That's a lot of stuff & probably a good amount of it is trial & error and you make mistakes and learn. Maybe I am unfairly harsh on Robin, admittedly I haven't followed a lot of the action this year so maybe he has gotten better. Of those things it would be hard to tell which ones he's very good at and where he's deficient because most of that stuff is hidden from view. I've mentioned before though that if game management is a major issue then maybe bringing in a new bench coach, or maybe even a second bench coach would be valuable. All a manger really needs to do re: game decisions is dictate them, but other people can more or less make them.
  5. The Ultimate Champion

    Addison Reed trade from DBacks' perspective

    If Hahn could go back in time and not make this trade I'm sure he would, but I'm also sure he'd have traded Reed for someone else & had he the benefit of hindsight he'd acquire somebody's Montas or something, some kid who gets it/turns it on out of nowhere and shoots up the rankings. That's not realistic though, obviously. The Davidson deal makes me think of Marcus Semien. You often have two types of prospects, the "baseball player" types and the "toolshed" types, and although some are more towards the middle it seems like most are more one than the other. Davidson was more the tools type than the baseball type given the swing & focus on raw power. Semien is more the baseball player type with solid skills all over the place but not really anything that wows you. Reed's value was probably good enough to bring back either type of player - and forget about the Top 100 s***, because even though Davidson made the list and Semien didn't it doesn't mean that a lot of scouts wouldn't have preferred Semien to Davidson. Now I know Hahn couldn't have traded Reed for Semien because he's already ours, but the point I'm making here is that there are often 2 roads to travel when trading a player like Reed (i.e. a non-star, above average closer with stuff more like a quality SU guy than an electric closer). You aren't getting some great prospect without any major flaws/question marks, and generally you're either going to get a player like a Davidson or a Semien. Both can turn into above-average MLB players if everything goes right, but in the end, neither generally make it. Hahn went with more of the ceiling type but had he picked up a Semien type, a "baseball player" type instead then Semien is a perfect example of another guy who so far hasn't made it and didn't light the world on fire in AAA. In the end Hahn got fair value at the time. He made a move he needed to make at the time, and because young players aren't free and he didn't have much to trade, he gave up Reed. Hahn correctly observed that, at the time, Gillaspie didn't look like a long-term solution, neither did injured Morel obviously, so he identified an area to improve and tried to improve it. Further, in giving up Reed he didn't set the forward progress of the organization back; Reed just isn't that kind of talent & there's no reason another strike-thrower closer like Petricka can't do just as good of a job as Reed would have. The downside on the deal was pretty low, and right here we are sitting pretty much right on the downside of it, and really we're not in some horrible spot now because of it. Hahn made the right move at the time & it didn't work, so what, that happens, and it's going to happen a lot whenever you are acquiring unproven MiLB players. Usually they are going to bust.
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    Ventura unlikely to be fired this off season

    QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 20, 2014 -> 11:55 AM) Sox have the same fielding% as Oakland and Pittsburgh, Cleveland has the worst....again, the managers of those teams have all won manager of the year the last 2 years. I don't even know how UZR is calculated so I didn't quote it, but the Indians (Lead by the guy a lot of guys here wanted) and Pittsburgh have worse ratings. Sox -38.6 Pitt -41.0 Indians -67.3. So Terry Francona, a guy a lot of people here wish was our manager, and a 2x WS Champ is leading a team that is worse defensively. Is Tito a bad manager or are managers pretty much irrelevant? It's not an either/or thing. Francona is probably a pretty good manager overall. Managers, simply from a clubhouse attitude/atmosphere type of thing, cannot possibly be irrelevant. Look at what happened to Boston's clubhouse after Francona was canned and Bobby Valentine came in and tried to split up the cliques. Look at what happened to this team's clubhouse in Ozzie's last couple years. And that's Robin's specialty supposedly, but managing the game counts too, especially when a team is actually good enough (and posters here are right when they say Robin couldn't manage this team into a winner anyway). I think at best this guy needs to be s***canned before we try to win anything, and maybe at that point a vet manager like Francona would work well. Unless Robin gets a lot better in other areas of course.
  7. The Ultimate Champion

    Ventura unlikely to be fired this off season

    Admittedly I haven't been watching a ton of White Sux baseball this year, usually I'll just watch an inning or PA or maybe a couple innings at any given time and I'll have the radio on otherwise if at all. So I'm not sure what the deal is here but a couple weeks ago I looked up Q's season numbers and was suprised to see he looked like he'd miss or maybe just barely hit the 200IP plateau this year. I know he's had some bad starts like the Royals game where he gave up lik 45 runs in 2 innings, and I know he has his games where the pitch count goes way up early but I certainly hope Robin hasn't been pulling this guy around the 100 pitch mark routinely. Even if it comes with a slight increase in ERA and decrease in peripheral stats, in a rebuilding year the manager needs to do everything he can to get someone like Q to 220IP. Again I haven't been watching enough to know when Robin has been pulling him. Maybe fangraphs has pitches per start or something? Robin famously didn't trust Quintana much at all his first season but he has shown some continued faith in Sale this year (which I like, even though Sale is faltered in some of those situations, because it's necessary for his development). So maybe Robin has given him a long leash & Q just hasn't been quite that good, but if not, and Robin has been cutting him short based on pitch count then that's a pretty big developmental error on his part IMO.
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    Reds as Trade Partners

    QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 04:35 PM) Hey it would be great to have Mike Trout and Gio Stanton hitting behind Jose too, but that isn't really realistic either. I know
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    Reds as Trade Partners

    I agree with wite. Continuing to build our pitching is the best way to make us a contender. A better starting staff makes the bullpen better and requires the offense to do less and also it makes our defense more valuable. I came up with a Danks to Pirates hypothetical a while ago here, only problem was I had the Pirates giving us players they don't have. But we want Pedro Alvarez or something? Well, they can take Danks, we will give them lots of cash on that deal, they can give us Alvarez & Tabata's bad deal, and then we'll give them prospects or soemthing to make up the difference. They might be able to use him with Liriano leaving & Danks could probably use the NL right about now. Great match IMO. Okay so back to the world of make believe, imagine what it would be like for a lineup to have to deal with Sale's motion one day and then Cueto the next, and just to add a little extra there, let's say the Sox call up Danish late in the year and use him as a righty specialist/setup guy to acclimate him to the big leagues. That's like funky motion heaven. s***, pick up a reliever out of Japan while you're at it and play George Clinton around the park. Brooks Boyer wouldn't think of that though, we'd sign some guy named Takisumi and all Brooksy would come up with is OEO Takisooooomio or something like that. Anyway I like to pretend.
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    Reds as Trade Partners

    QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 04:27 PM) It would make no sense for the Sox to trade for Cueto with him being a FA after 2015. He's going to be seeking something in the range of 25 mil per year. I've heard Boston is a possible spot for him, which would make sense as they have a ton of money/prospects to use to acquire players. God I would hate to see that. I'd rather he go the Tigers than Boston. I hate Boston.
  11. The Ultimate Champion

    Reds as Trade Partners

    I'm going to take my shoes off. Matter of fact, I'm going to take my sweater off, too. Let's just pretend for a second. It's okay to pretend. I like to pretend, and I bet you like to pretend too. Lots of boys and girls like to play pretend. Oh look here's the little trolley, why don't we take a visit to The World of Make Believe... Sale - Game 1 Cueto - Game 2 Quintana - Game 3 Rodon/Noesi/whoever is healthy & hot - Game 4, and if not, maybe Sale on short rest (why not?) Yeah. Now lets take the pants off too. That would be so FUN. OMG. Even just the regular season would be a blast watching that rotation.
  12. The Ultimate Champion

    Reds as Trade Partners

    QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) Phillips is a very bad option for the Sox moving forward. He turned 33 in June, is signed for $39 million over the next 3 seasons, and this is the 3rd year in a row (base year of 2011) where his numbers have decreased. He is just not a good player anymore. I love the idea of acquiring a guy like Cueto (who is getting absolutely no love for the Cy Young and should be - 2.33 ERA, 3.29 FIP, 3.24 xFIP, leading the NL in IP) or Latos, but at what cost? A guy like that is going to cost a hell of a lot plus you'd have to re-sign him following the season. Yeah I was just thinking, maybe we could take that in exchange for a lighter prospect load. I really agree that this is a long shot. We'd give up a lot, maybe take back a bad contract too, and then whoever we traded for would just sign elsewhere. Why is Homer Bailey on the 60 day DL though? Maybe that's more of an option. Anyway Latos would be nice and Cueto would be just dreamy .... creamy dreamy ....
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    Reds as Trade Partners

    "In Thursday’s edition of his Insider-only blog, ESPN’s Buster Olney opines that the Reds should give serious thought to trading ace Johnny Cueto this offseason. Cueto has a no-brainer $10MM club option for 2015, making him a highly affordable and elite talent — an appealing alternative to clubs in win-now mode that don’t want to commit long-term dollars to Max Scherzer, Jon Lester or James Shields. The Reds will see Cueto, Mat Latos and Mike Leake hit free agency following the 2015 season, with Aroldis Chapman set to do the same the following year. Those losses, coupled with the rising salary of Joey Votto, give the Reds incentive to create some flexibility and add prospect depth. Olney wonders if the Reds could look to pair Cueto with Brandon Phillips in an effort to free themselves of the $36MM remaining on the second baseman’s deal. Of course, even if a team were to take on Phillips, they’d still likely need to surrender notable prospect value." That's on MLBTR's page. I know it's probably too good to be true & not sure we'd have or would be willing to give up the pieces, but a #2 RHP is a need & the Reds have 3 that would fit the bill. They also want to dump Phillips (we have a hole at 2B) and want to shed salary (we have payroll room). So slurpee slurpe fap time? Maybe? I'll take Cueto especially....
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    Ventura unlikely to be fired this off season

    QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 01:49 PM) So his extension was for 3 years? Hopefully this year plus 2 more rather than this year plus 3 more.
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