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4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:
Not sure if this is quite as highly ranked of a return as I wanted, and it's surprising that the White Sox would turn Burger into someone with 40 man pressure, but I get the move overall.
What about this roster gives you any concerns about 40 man spots?
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1 minute ago, T R U said:
Saw a reddit post that said Busch was in the return
Link?
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3 hours ago, Dick Allen said:
This is a lot better than making people wait 2 1/2 hours yesterday and then playing in the same or worse conditions than the conditions you waited out.
I think MLB makes this call now.
1 hour ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said:Didn’t they announce the delayed start time hours in advance?
No. I believe it was about 12:15 when they put the delay on. It didn't rain from that time until game past a drizzle here or there.
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What I would do:
R SS Anderson
R 1B Vaughn
R CF Robert
R DH Eloy
S C Grandal
L LF Benintendi
S 3B Moncada
R 2B Andrus
R RF GonzalezWhat I expect:
R SS Anderson
R CF Robert
L LF Benintendi
R DH Eloy
S 3B Moncada
R 1B Vaughn
S C Grandal
L RF Colas
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3 hours ago, flavum said:
Sox are working out at Minute Maid now, so maybe we get the Moncada update and final moves later this afternoon. Not sure if MLB is requiring final rosters today or tomorrow morning.
I believe Hahn said Moncada will be good to go tomorrow.
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1 hour ago, flavum said:
No Leury again today. Road game vs Brewers. Split squad tomorrow.
I don't know that it's been reported but I think Leury is injured or dealing with pain/discomfort.
I think if he starts the year on the IL, they will give him a chance once he is healthy. If he plays like he did last year they cut him by the ASB or sooner provided we are otherwise healthy.
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1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said:
At this point, I have to agree. Alberto is going to make it based on Grifol's recent comments (within last couple weeks maybe?) about him. And Romy isn't having a good Spring. Plus, they need to have a real 4th OF, though I have a feeling it may come from outside the organization closer to the end of Spring Training.
Yup I agree. I am expecting a bench of: Zavala, Sheets, Leury, Alberto.
Romy is hurting or sore right now and the Sox don't want him rotting away on the bench as the Leury/Alberto spots don't seems to be in line for much playing time. I am guessing Romy will be playing a good deal of outfield in AAA with Burger/Sosa/Yolbert and then two or three of Rivera/Mondou/Gonzalez/Remillard taking up the infield spots.
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27 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:
My only issue is having Colas as a platoon player out of the gate. The dude is one of your top prospects and smashed left handed pitching last season(only 115 at bats but still), why would you be platooning him for Romy Gonzalez?
Not to worry, Romy won't even make the team.
That said, it is going to drive me crazy when Leury starts in RF against LHP and Sheets gets starts in RF against RHP.
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What I would do:
S 3B Moncada
R CF Robert
R DH Eloy
R SS Anderson
L LF Benintendi
R 1B Vaughn
S C Grandal
L RF Colas
R 2B Andrus
What the Sox will do:
R SS Anderson
L LF Benintendi
R DH Eloy
R CF Robert
S 3B Moncada
R 1B Vaughn
S C Grandal
L RF Colas/Sheets
R 2B Andrus -
What I would do:
Zavala, Sheets, Burger, Romy
What I expect
Zavala, Sheets, Leury, Hanser Alberto
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The most annoying part of this is the value in this contract was that if Clevinger returns to pre-surgery form, next year's option would be a huge value. With all the drama, Sox might just move on regardless if Clevinger pitches great. So an exoneration would be nice for this Jerry Reinsdorf-owned-franchise but he probably did something close to what is being alleged regardless of how the MLB's investigation plays out.
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4 hours ago, PorkChopExpress said:
What court are you referring to? I thought there were no criminal charges filed and there is only a pending MLB investigation. Is that wrong? Is there a civil case filed? Are you referring to custody hearings?
There are no court proceedings. There are no charges against Clevinger. Not through civil court and not through criminal court. This is simply an investigation by the MLB as a result of his ex's accusations that she brought to the league.
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1 hour ago, SonofaRoache said:
This was my point. They needed to pick a lane and picked the lane of no punishment without more evidence.
You don't know that though. Their investigation is still ongoing. They could still hand him a 162 game suspension tonight. Now I don't think that will happen and they should have already made a judgement, but they have not taken a position yet.
To anyone who has used critical thinking in this situation, there is not a lot of evidence that Clevinger was looking at a big suspension. In DV cases that the MLB has deemed serious, they have acted quickly to put players on administrative leave. In DV cases that were significant enough to involved law enforcement, there has been swift judgements made with the clarity from the law enforcement involvement.
In Clevinger's case, he was put under investigation and subsequently finished his season without interruption. He has already played half a season under this investigation and it took a month or so after the investigation to become public for people to seem to understand that. There really isn't a comparable case with MLB handling an investigation like Clevinger's. At some point, they have to realize, this happened in the "summer" and it is a "he said, she said" situation that you would think has no further evidence coming forward. I am guessing the hold up is the MLB is hoping some more information comes out against Clevinger so they can punish him and be held in the high graces of social media. If they don't have enough/sufficient evidence to punish Clevinger, they are concerned with the backlash they will get for not punishing him. It's really a microcosm of the nasty world that is social media. The people watching this case on social media are not concerned with right or wrong or the facts of the matter, they just want scalps. They want to call Clevinger or the Sox or the MLB names to show how moral and great they are as people by putting down others.
For the folks who aren't concerned with proving their moral greatness to a few hundred followers on Twitter, the following of this is just being a Sox/baseball fan. And for those folks, it's just about the facts of the matter. And the facts bode well Clevinger whether he's a POS or not. And I tend to think he probably is a POS. I just don't think the facts of the matter that are out there at this point give credence to the idea that this investigation will lead to a lengthy suspension if any.
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1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:
The fact of the matter is by this point, they should have one.
I agree. That doesn't change anything I said though.
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40 minutes ago, GREEDY said:
Had he said "A source told me" it would be ok right?
Instead, he said "I think" so that doesn't fly around here.
I am not sure what you're trying to say or joke about but he is saying he has an issue with the MLB's position when they don't even have one.
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2 hours ago, SonofaRoache said:
MLB has had more than enough time to act. I think they are either waiting for more substantial evidence, or this case isn't looking strong legally. This is a very serious situation and strong allegations were made. MLB picked their lane and it's the wrong one.
How do you know MLB's position? They have made no judgement. There is no way of knowing the MLB's "lane."
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1 hour ago, fathom said:
Between last year and the renewed focus on eliminating the sticky stuff, there’s no way in hell I’m extending Giolito right now.
People keep calling out Gio but if you put his numbers against the MLB's inexplicable changes in enforcement and non-enforcement, he actually looks like a guy who isn't affected by this.
That's not to say he isn't/wasn't using before the first wave of enforcement in 2021 because he clearly was both visually and through data with his spin rates dropping after umps started checking. That said, in 2021, he started slow and dominated down the stretch in the post-substance part of 2021.
Then 2022, enforcement timing is unclear but his season was worst in years. We also know the MLB was far more relaxed. Just not sure the narrative on Gio is accurate despite him definitely getting help.
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1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:
What's your take on Liam? All comments from Katz to Grifol to even Gio saying he expects him back soon have all been very positive. Sox DFA'd a potentially useful depth arm in order to not place Liam on the 60 day. Sounds like he's been at camp more than not, and is continuing to pitch. Obviously I am not privy to where he is in his treatment, but I feel like they've telegraphed that he's doing well so far and don't expect a long term absence. Liam's focus is certainly on fighting his cancer, but I am also confident it was caught very early with the type of medical treatment these guys get. I think he'll be back sooner than most expect.
I can't even guess. When cancer is involved I can't even really have an opinion. Hahn keeps saying the earliest they will update his status is after opening day. At the point of diagnosis, people on Twitter were acting like he shouldn't even be considered for 2023. It's definitely a good sign he's in Glendale with the team and throwing. He's obviously a highly competitive dude who is going to push whatever timeline he is dealt.
When you say you think he'll be back sooner than others, what are you seeing/hearing from others? I have basically seen people with my opinion of not being able to have an opinion and then people who think he's going to be out all year. Would definitely be nice to have him back in the first half but I am curious what Liam's goals are in his head.
Every cancer is different and can obviously be caught at a variety of points. Not sure there is much value in looking at other cases of players getting cancer in the midst of their career. Like everyone else, I am just hoping Liam is healthy and cancer free ASAP anything we get out of him in 2023 would be the cherry on top.
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1 hour ago, ChiSoxTrojan said:
Tim is going to be in the lineup almost every day, Andrus is more likely to be going in and out. It doesn't make sense for Tim to be going back and forth between positions based on whether Andrus is in the lineup.
RE: TA's defense, he had a month or two stretch at the start of the season where he was making a lot of errors. But he cut that down by mid-May (I don't remember exactly when and I'm not sure how to pull up monthly fielding splits) and was solid the rest of the way. Hopefully that continues, really I'm not all that worried about it.
The he "was solid the rest of the way" after May argument does not hold much weight when he missed most of June, most of August and all of September.
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15 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:
I think ReyLo will continue to thrive in the pen, but I think its much more likely Liam is our closer in July than ReyLo.
I feel like Graveman will be the closer and ReyLo the fireman. Graveman has made comments about not wanting to come in with guys on base which is...concerning for a reliever to say the least. Graveman has the experience so I think they'd lean that way but Grifol has been open minded. Wouldn't be surprised to see Bummer and eventually Crochet in the mix if the matchups were right.
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Given how much the defense improved when TA went out and Andrus was picked up, at what point do the Sox make the switch on these two if TA struggles at SS?
I feel like the Sox will be more concerned with managing TA's ego than they are with fielding the best team but I am pretty confident today that the best lineup the Sox can field right now is TA at 2B and Andrus at SS. Who knows with the new manager.
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14 hours ago, Balta1701 said:
In 2016 he won a title and was the NL All Star Starter.
In 2017, his numbers were a little worse, but he was still an average player. 2.2 WAR, so literally "average starter". .722 OPS.
In 2018, his offense was falling off some but his defense continued to be fine. His OPS dropped to .657 on the season. He was put on administrative leave near the end of the season. Overall though, he was a 2.6 WAR player that year, better than the year before overall.
He started 2019 suspended, came back, and put up a 0.8 fWAR season in 241 plate appearances. .699 OPS. He was sent to AAA mid-season. He was designated for assignment at the end of the year and no one picked him up.
Looking at the advance stats, he was actually better than I thought the last few years, I remember hearing about how his offense never blossomed, but he remained an average player and could have totally continued being a MLB level shortstop based on his performance alone. I'd have to conclude the reason he's playing in Korea now is the domestic violence suspension and no one wanting to sign him because of it.
He had an OPS of .653 in the KBO in 2020. For reference, Socrates Brito, who had a career OPS of .525 in 218 PA's in the MLB posted an OPS of .848 in the KBO last year.
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15 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:
I mean, I would hope some of the guys have a problem with sharing a locker room with a guy that pushed around his gf and throws/pours chew spit at his infant child….
and yes, I agree that they cannot just release him until the league has spoken. But do think they should tell him to not bother coming to camp if there isn’t a resolution in the next couple weeks, or ask the league to put him on administrative leave while they continue to sort it out.
For one thing, it is a blessing that many of us grew up in a way where these domestic violence incidents are looked at as zero tolerance. On the other hand, there are many people in the league (whichever league) and on the Sox that have grown up in an environment where hitting a women is somewhat commonplace.
To your point of the Sox clubhouse having issues, wouldn't the same be said for all of the Yankees last year with Aroldis Chapman? The Cubs didn't seem to have any issue with acquiring him in 2016 after he cleared his handgun next to his wife / girlfriend 's head. Odubel Hererra was a game away from getting a World Series ring in October. Dodgers could have won all of the last three World Series after Julio Urias' incident and people actually witnessed that. Do you think those clubhouses were concerned what happened with those guys' personal lives?
What about the Dolphins with Tyreke Hill? Bengals didn't have any chemistry / locker room issues with Joe Mixon these past few years.
Clevinger is still under investigation. His teammates are adults living in the real world. It is not the social media world. The team will manage. Clevinger's a starting pitcher. Maybe there is an outfielder that takes exception to it and pent up aggression over it and maybe they keep their distance. Just like all the other teams in all the other leagues manage with all the other criminals/abusers/accused criminals/accused abusers in sports, the Sox will manage. The players are human and when they go to work they're going to be a lot more concerned with things other than what may have happened in the private life of one of their teammates who takes the ball every fifth day.
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Burger To Marlins
in The Diamond Club
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You're the one still posting about the team if there's no point just stop paying attention. Others still want to watch this deadline develop.