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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (FT35 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) Rosenthal just removed a tweet after 3 minutes that said BREAKING: White Sox Red Sox agree on Sale. Sox would receive Benintendi and Devers as a part of the deal. No Moncada. Those guys are good...but if we trade Sale and it doesn't bring back a team's #1 prospect...wow. Are we sure it was the real Rosenthal? edit: someone beat me to it. Thanks for sharing, FT35.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:28 AM) If the reports are true and the best prospect in this package is someone ranked where Avi Garcia was ranked when we got him, you laugh and keep Chris Sale. Period. While I agree that the Sox should only trade Sale or Q if the return in unprecedented, I find it very hard to believe the Sox haven't gotten at least some offers that include top 20 prospects. Both of their values dwarf the values of some guys that have been traded for top 20 talent within the past couple weeks. That doesn't mean the package was sufficient, but there's no way Sale/Q hasn't garner an offer including a blue chip prospect. But that's not going to stop Soxtalk from saying "we could have have Benintendi, Moncada, and Kopech for Sale. Hahn is such an idiot."
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) whitesoxdave ‏@barstoolWSD 3m3 minutes ago Chicago, IL Just texted my guy. "It's crazy how quiet it's been... I got nothing" Life is awesome being a White Sox fan, said nobody His source probably realized he should stop leaking info to this guy.
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    Sanchez

    Agreed on Sanchez. Saladino should be at 2B everyday until Brett comes back.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:58 PM) If the Red Sox won't include Moncada or Benintendi....then give us Devers + Eduardo Rodriguez. 3B Devers, SP Rodriguez, SP Kopech, 3B Chavis, and OF Basabe for Quintana. No thanks.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:25 PM) For me any Sale deal starts with Moncada, Ben, and Kop. If they aren't willing, too bad. And yes, I am willing to wait until the offseason. Really that simple.
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    Sox are going to blow this, aren't they?

    QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:16 PM) One reason for stagnation over the past 10 years has been terrible scouting and talent evaluation. That resulted in bad trades and some wasted first round Draft picks like Beckham, Fulmer, Courtney Hawkins, Jared Mitchell. If better decisions had been made I have no doubt that Reinsdorf would have given management what they needed to get free agents to become competitive. Fulmer is a wasted 1st round pick now? Lol, so many quality posts on here today.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:17 PM) We've been repeating the word patience for nearly a decade. Clock is ticking. Pirates, Yanks and Padres are running circles around us. Pirates Yanks and Padres? Lol
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:12 PM) I don't know if you'll ever get the right return for Sale that's fair to the Sox. But is Moncada, Benintendi, Devers and Kopech and Vasquez taking less in your opinion? Pretty sure Hahn would take that deal. But I highly doubt anything remotely close to that has been offered.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:08 PM) IF Sale and Quintana really are on the market, then waiting isn't smart. As others have mentioned, the true value of Sale and Q is cost control and age. Every start they make for the White Sox diminishes that value. Waiting a "year or two from now" will substantially lessen their value. Additionally, I'm incredibly uncomfortable with the thought that Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams STILL don't know what lane to pick, and if they believe they can't get proper value for these pitchers, they'll just hold on to them and once again try and make 2017 and 2018 work by piecing together another 78 win team. No one is willing to pay for their current value, otherwise they'd have been moved! Patience.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 09:59 PM) Therein lies the problem, however. Their trade value decreases as you wait longer...because those years of control are lessening. It's obvious that no one is willing to pay the requisite price at the moment. Hahn hasn't and shouldn't blink. We'll see if someone else does. No reason to comprise and get what you can get in a year or two from now just to make a trade. That's my point.
  12. QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 08:05 PM) Duke is just another body. He's nothing special. The outfielder we got obviously is a bust to this date or St. Louis wouldn't have traded him. This will probably be his final chance to be a starter in the bigs. Lol, at least try to understand the game.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 09:51 PM) Well it goes back to Dick's real estate analogy again...if you have a $10 million house, it may take you a LONG time to get fair value, or else you may need to sell it for less than market value, due to a lack of buyers. I think Baron's point is that Sale and Q aren't doing anything for us on our roster...so maybe the only alternative is to take a little less than market value. I would suggest you wait until the offseason if that is the case, but you can't really just keep holding them and saying "I'm not getting the 5 prospects I desire." Sure you can. You can just wait a couple years until their price gets to a point in which a team is actually willing to pay. You don't just give up years of control of underpaid aces just to move on. You get full value, or you wait.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    A little off the wall idea, but I wonder if the Sox would have any interest in taking Puig back in a lesser deal. I don't think his value has fallen enough for the Dodgers to do a Shields - Puig swap, or even a Robertson - Puig swap, but it would be a way to get a higher ceiling bat for the next couple years and an affordable price. Admittedly I am just spit balling, but it'd be a White Soxy move and we know this FO has has interest in Puig before.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:23 PM) heyman reporting Sale to dodgers done No he is not.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 11:47 AM) Frazier, Sanchez, Torres, Andujar, Severino, and Acevedo, would be ideal to me from the Yankees. Judge holds very little appeal to me. Gross.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 11:41 AM) Frazier, Torres or Mateo, Sanchez, Judge, Sheffield, plus another projectable arm or two. That's the deal I'm demanding from the Yankees. Would not accept anything less for Sale. I like this w Severino.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 11:31 AM) Boston has more star level prospects so Yankees would have to go quantity. Frazier,Torres, Sanchez,Severino couple fliers….Chance Adams, Jordan Montgomery, Dietrich Enns Judge needs to be in any deal w the yanks. Mateo too.
  19. Not super exciting, but Tilson seems interesting. Id probably rather watch him play CF than Shuck. Wonder how long he'll be in AAA.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:05 AM) I'm not sure but they're stacked for a Sale trade but it also would force a bidding war between them IMO Judge, Frazier, Severino, Sanchez, Mateo and Bird is a pretty strong package IMO.
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    Non White Sox Trade Rumors

    QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 08:18 AM) From the Yankees, I think Frazier, Severino, and Bird are must gets in any Chris Sale deal. Judge and Sanchez too. Rake em over the coals.
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 01:29 PM) Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 7s7 seconds ago Sources: #Rangers have talked to #WhiteSox about Quintana as well as Sale. Same story: No traction due to differences in perceived value. Hahn asking for the moon, as he should be. But I'm sure a bunch of you will find a way to fault him anyway.
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    Dodgers kicking Tires on Q

    QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 06:40 PM) I replied to his tweet with an offer of Moncada, Devers, and Kopech for Q. That's a concession IMO.
  24. QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:34 PM) Got the Jons mixed up. But, Heyman did say that NYY would decline Giolito for Miller... Seems like a no brainer to me. Why would the yanks reject that!?
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    White Sox Listening on Sale

    QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) So Cameron says a Benintendi/Devers/1 lower level guy (or Moncada/Kopech instead for the first two), Urias/Verdugo (or Bellinger instead of Verdugo)/2 lower level guys or Gallo/Brinson/Ortiz/1 lower level guy should be enough for the Sox to want to move Sale. If Sale was traded for any of those packages, would anyone here be happy with those trades? No. Those are the types of trades you can get when Sale has 1.5 years of control, not 3.5 years.
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