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    2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)

    QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 05:58 PM) Twins to sign Jason Castro per Rosenthal Clearly wasn't worried about winning. Seeing 3/$24M. If so, not a bad deal at all for the Twinkies.
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    How would you feel emotionally if/when Sale is traded?

    QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) You think Sale's value can get higher? Probably not, but maybe. I just think Q has a higher probability of falling off a cliff and becoming a mediocre pitcher. There is no way Sale does that without significant injury. If Sale goes out and wins the CY young next year (definite possibility), I don't think his value takes much hit this year to next, and maybe even improves a bit. But its definitely not going to improve much. The comment wasn't really meant as a comparison between the two, but rather that I think there is a possibility we'd be selling high on Q.
  3. QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) I have to say, I've been surprised at how little Sale's contract has mattered. It gets mentioned, but I think part of it is we are dealing with Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers/etc. That's nice, but the 10 million in savings per year isn't really doing anything for them. PIttsburgh/STL would be the helpful teams there, but they don't seem to have the weapons. I'm pretty sure if Boston feels Sale is too expensive they'll just get Verlander and not really care too much about it. Thing is, its more like $20M+ in savings. Sale would make $30M+ per year easy in FA.
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    How would you feel emotionally if/when Sale is traded?

    Definitely bittersweet. I love watching Sale pitch. Easily my favorite, along with vintage Buehrle. It will be a sad day, but hopefully when it happens, we know right away it was a great deal for the Sox. With Q, I'd be less sad. Love the guy, but I think its a legitimate possibility his value will never be higher.
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    Rangers prospect facing charges

    Well that's messed up
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    Rumor: Dodgers & Sox discussing Sale & Frazier

    QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 04:07 PM) Can you guys imagine the meltdown that will happen here if Sale isn't traded this offseason or if someone like Gray or Archer are dealt for a haul? There is going to be a melt down no matter what happens. Let's be real.
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    Rumor: Reported Potential Red Sox package for Sale

    QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 12:53 PM) Would still need Swihart & either Sam Travis or Luis Alexander Basabe, plus some lower level throw ins. Give me those three (Benintendi, Devers, Kopech) plus Rodriguez and either Vazquez/Swihart and I will like it.
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    Rumor: Dodgers & Sox discussing Sale & Frazier

    QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 05:33 PM) Just not sure you also get Groome included there as well. What are there now, ten teams? Boston NYY LAD Texas Houston Atlanta Pittsburgh St. Louis Washington Cubs (nah) I haven't seen Pittsburgh mentioned but as pure speculation on here.
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    Rumor: Dodgers & Sox discussing Sale & Frazier

    QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 06:40 PM) Benintendi Devers Kopesch Eduardo Rodriguez Blake Swihart 1 of Jake Cosart, Deven Marrero, Trey Ball, Christian Vasquez, or Brian Johnson To me this still seems like the most likely outcome if a Boston deal were to happen. I know some here might think it's a little light, but I'd be happy with this haul. This + smart moves with Melky, Frazier, and Robertson and we could be setup nicely for a quick turn around in my opinion. No need to move Q, Eaton, and Abreu just yet I think that's a great deal for the Sox. Don't need the last guy either, but would certainly take him.
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    Rumor: Dodgers & Sox discussing Sale & Frazier

    QUOTE (bruni @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) Why do posters keep talking about the Dodgers reluctance to include Urias in a package for Sale when even since July it was reported that Urias was dangled as part of a return for Sale? For Sale alone the deal must include Urias plus 2 top 50 prospects and at least one more top 100 guy. Throw Frazier into the mix would likely require another top 100 guy and 2 lottery picks. This is why - to me anyway - the Dodgers should have the ammo to pull off the deal. My guess is because he was pretty good in the bigs after July. That said, I think they'd include Urias, but it may mean not getting De Leon, or getting one of Verdugo / Bellinger. Personally, I want all four.
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    Destinations for Adam Eaton

    QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 07:15 AM) Don't think he gets dealt. We'd have to be blown away and not many teams have the bullets to get it done. This. I don't think there's any realistic chance Adam isn't on the Sox on Opening Day. No one is going to meet their price, and if the Sox REALLY don't HAVE to trade Eaton. Dude is dirt cheap for 5 more years. However, his value may never be higher.
  12. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 09:37 AM) I have zero issues with the White Sox bringing back pitching in a Sale deal. A rotation of Quintana, Rodon, Fulmer still has several spots to fill with things that are better than James Shields, you always assume some guys will bust out of any group you bring back/draft, and bringing back additional pitching could make moving Quintana more palatable as well. I'd probably have issue with the White Sox bringing back ONLY pitching, but I could deal with a pitching-headlined deal. I mean, I definitely want a pitcher or two back with top of the rotation potential, but I just have far more faith in the Sox developing pitching than I do of them developing their own hitters. Hence why I'd like to see a trade that is more centered around bats that are close to ML ready.
  13. QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 09:22 AM) Top 100 Prospects from BA's midseason list (excluding Swanson): 17. Ozzie Albies ss Braves Has made it to Triple-A just a year after being named a South Atlantic League all-star 33. Sean Newcomb lhp Braves Walk rate still high, but premium swing-and-miss stuff remains with 80 strikeouts in first 78 2/3 innings. 77. Kolby Allard lhp Braves Like Brady Aiken, Allard is shaking off a lot of injury-induced rust; the stuff has bounced back quickly. 78. Mike Soroka rhp Braves Soroka moved on the rubber, and the 18-year-old Canadian has thrown lots of quality strikes in his first full season in the Sally League. 95. Touki Toussaint rhp Braves A significant tweak to his arm slot and arm action has Touissant throwing more strikes and missing more bats. Sox need offense pieces. I don't think the Braves fit. Trade would have to be Swanson, Inciarte, Albies, and two of the pitchers and I still wouldn't love it.
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    Rumor: Dodgers & Sox discussing Sale & Frazier

    QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) If we're trading Sale and Frazier to LAD, why not package Quintana and Abreu to Boston? I think Jones to BOS is a damn near certainty if the Sox end up moving guys.
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    Rumor: Dodgers & Sox discussing Sale & Frazier

    QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 07:09 PM) I'll take less in quantity if it means we get Urias in the deal. Urias, De Leon, Bellinger, Verdugo, Lux, and Puig. I honestly don't know how Urias wouldn't be involved. Sure, De Leon is solid, but he is already 24 turning 25 in the season without MLB experience. Same. I'd do this deal and I don't particularly like Dodgers as a trade partner for Sale, but if they offer the top 4, not sure you can say no. I would like to see Barnes a part of the deal though. That said, I don't think this will happen because it would go against what the Dodgers front office has done since taking over.
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    Abreu enters arbitration

    QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 04:35 PM) Well that s***s on his trade value for sure. Meh. He is only going to get about $500k to $1m raise this year versus what he would have gotten. If he rakes like he did the past 2 months of the season, he'll be getting raises in the next two years, but its not like his salary is going to skyrocket. On the plus side, it gives the Sox (or the acquiring team) a little more flexibility in that if he falls of a cliff or gets hurt, they can non-tender him and aren't stuck paying $12M per.
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    White Sox focused on Rebuild

    QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) The trade can be a blockbuster and good for sox and not just be a list of all of the top players under 24 in an organization. NEVER!
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    White Sox focused on Rebuild

    QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) Urias, Verdugo, Bellinger, De Leon, Puig for Sale, Frazier or no deal. If they don't want to give Puig then that's fine, he's really a throw-in. Keep Puig. Give me Lux and Barnes.
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    Abreu enters arbitration

    QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 03:17 PM) Per Dan Hayes Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 7m7 minutes ago Jose Abreu opted out of his guaranteed 3/$34 million deal w/ #WhiteSox and instead will go year by year in arb w/ them. Still Sox property. Positive to this is it may reinvigorate Jose. He's got something to play for again outside of his next contract. I've never really found that to be an issue with Jose, just worth mentioning.
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    2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)

    QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 12:26 PM) Who else are we waiting on? Walker (who I think may take it or sign an extension with the Mets) and ? Edit: Hellickson is the last guy that I forgot about. Hellickson accepted his QO....so there goes one of the best couple arms on the FA market....to the Phillies. Only good news for the Sox.
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    Will Brett Lawrie be Non-Tendered?

    Hmmm. Not really any disparaging comments towards the Sox, but interesting nonetheless.
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    White Sox focused on Rebuild

    QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 12:15 PM) Would it really "gut" their system though? Yes.
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    Will Brett Lawrie be Non-Tendered?

    QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 12:00 PM) +1 to this. Why should a guy consistently on the DL get the benefit of the doubt on this? Seems to me he's talking up trash on his way out. For those of us not on Twitter, what is he saying exactly?
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    White Sox focused on Rebuild

    QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) I really don't like the Dodgers as a landing spot for Sale from our perspective. Q, possibly, but not Sale. Agreed. Not enough offensive pieces. If you trade Sale to the Dodgers, pretty much have to trade Q and Jones to Boston for as much offensive talent as you can get. I assume they won't be trade Joc.
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    White Sox News FA / Rumors / News

    QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 11:00 AM) Is Sale the only guy going though? I think you can hit on a Sale deal but they also need to then move Quintana, Cabrera, Robertson, Frazier and probably Abreu to make it worth trading. While discussing with teams they will all want Eaton and probably Jones. That is a lot of teams you need to deal impactful youth. If it is a money saving venture that the Sox are going after than moving those guys will be easy. Similar to the Ray Durham trade of years past for all but Quintana and Sale..... My personal guess is that in the end they will need to spend money on a bad contract or 2, trade Rodon and hope to compete. Lol, they are not trading Rodon.
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