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I don't see any scenerio where Rick Porcello is the Sox top SP addition, and I don't take anything that guy says seriously. His next post that doesn't assume the worst for the Sox will be his first.

I don't even know if I'd want the Sox to sign Cole at 9/$350M or whatever insane deal he is about to get.

Texas also has no state income tax, so the Sox could have been the higher bidder and still been behind Texas,

I am moreso concerned that the Sox were actually interested in Jordan Lyles than the fact that he took a $1M or whatever less to play elsewhere.

Get back to the war room, ricky.

Really tough to know. Maeda is probably pretty disgruntled being jacked around in the bullpen with his contract. But then again, he is an awfully nice insurance policy to have. That contract is pretty nice and I imagine alot of teams would like to have him. I think the Dodgers would be willing to move him, but they certainly don't have to, and it doing so doesn't exactly save them much money.

Lol and throw Covey and.....I don't know...Flores out there everything 5th day? GMAFB. There is 0% chance the Sox don't add a SP.

Maeda + Pederson And then go sign Ryu or Keuchel would be pretty good solution. Can always transition Maeda to pen or as a swingman in the future - which would really limit his earnings.

His contract is super goofy though. Controlled thru 23 at $3.125M per year, but has a ton of very attainable performance bonuses tied to GS and IP. Maeda will receive $150,000 each year for making the opening day active 25-man roster. He will receive $1 million for each of 15 and 20 starts, and $1.5 million for each of 25, 30 and 32 starts. Maeda each year will earn $250,000 for each of 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140, 150, 160, 170, 180 and 190 innings pitched, and $750,000 for 200 innings. In addition, Maeda receives a $1 million bonus each time he is traded.

He should be a DH, occasional OF right now.

So what's your plan then? Pay Dallas fucking Keuchel $18M AAV? Sign an extreme flyball pitcher in MadBum to come to the Southside of Chicago? Acquire the corpse of David Price for $33M AAV? The Sox have money to spend - they should be acquiring pitching on the FA market, not trading valuable pieces of the future for it.

Even with Ryu missing half of 2018, he still amassed 6.7 fWAR the last two seasons. Using a super conservative estimate of $8M per 1 fWAR, he's been worth ~$54M the last two seasons. The guy is good enough that he can definitely be worth his salary even if he averages 125 IP per year over the course of his contract (which is his career average). I don't want to sign guys just to sign them. The farthest thing. I want to sign Ryu because he is the best available SP (besides the guy we're never getting) on the market, and we need SP. I also think his market will be somewhat suppressed due to his injury history. The guy isn't going to come to the Sox and become an 180+ IP per season workhorse, but the Sox also don't necessarily need him to be that guy.

For sure - no doubt he is an injury risk. But he's also really fucking good when he's healthy, and we have Kopech arriving in June, Rodon after the ASB. If he can stay healthy the 1st half of the year, we should be able to stomach an IL stint or two.

This too. Dodgers have had the luxury of taking it easy on Ryu. I have to doubt that he'd have pitched more innings for pretty much any other organization.

It is true though. You can discount it because one had TJS and one didn't if that's what you want to do, but they both came to the big leagues in 2013, and they're within 10 IP of one another. Yes, Wheeler missed more time with 1 specific injury, Ryu the same amount of time with mutliple injuries, but they've pitched the same amount in their MLB career. Also, I don't believe Ryu has had any arm injuries in over 3 years. Ryu is not perfect, but he is by the far the best remaining option. 4/$85M is pretty rich for him, but I'd be willing to do it. If it gets much over that, that's pretty brutal.

They just offered a guy 5/$125M who literally has been injured the exact same amount as Ryu.

Does not make sense to me.

Honest question - why would the Sox target Frazier? The guy literally solves none of our issues, and his former prospect status alone means he probably still for some godforsaken reason has trade value.

Please. Would like be the cheapest of the options prospect-wise - besides maybe Beni/Price due to Price's contract - as both Ray and Peralta are only controlled through 2020. Dbacks aren't just going to hand over Ray, though.

This literally applies to at least 70% of the posters here.

I actually want David Peralta. Or Joc. Or I’d be fine with Calhoun. Someone who can play some defense would be nice.

People sure love to ignore defense around here.

Sensed a little attitude with Hahn to Levine at the start. Was fun to watch.

Quite simply - the Sox need to sign Ryu. He's the best bet remaining. Give him 4 years if you have to - you can't tell me 4/$84M isn't the high offer right now. At that point, you sign a Walker, Wood, Porcello, or Lindbloom caliber for the other spot, and pitching is looking soooo much better.

Yah, I mean - if I am the Sox, I am doing everything I can to get Ryu right now. Everything falls into place if you have Ryu. Much less so IMO if its Keuchel.