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Awesome for the bullpen! Man that’s a big deal. If I’m reading this right, it’s basically a 4/$54M due to the buyout and option being the same price. Still a lot, but that makes it feel a little better!
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I'd love to have Hendriks, but my guess is I won't lose any sleep over the Sox missing out on him if he's getting anything more than like 3/$36M, which he will.
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1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said:Numbers have lined up with the MLB Trade Rumors projections (column 2, prorated 2020 stats to 162 games).
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/projected-arbitration-salaries-for-2021.html
Signed (Projected P vs. Signing S)
- Engel $1.4M P vs. $1.37M S
- Fry $1.0M P vs. $0.86M S
- Marshall $1.9M P vs. $2.0M S
Pending
- Giolito $5.3M P vs. ???
- Lopez $2.2M P vs. ???
Hard Pass
- Mazara $5.9M P vs. Team / $ ???
- Rodon $4.5M P vs. Team / $ ???
The ship has likely sailed, but I would be in support of brining Rodon back for like 1/$2M. Can never have enough rotation options, and while he sucked out of the pen in a very SSS in 2020, I think he could be effective there with more work. Not a bad guy to have around. But I am sure he'd prefer a chance somewhere he's guaranteed a rotation spot, or at least a little easier to get one.
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8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:100% how I took it. And my guess is those starts are opening double headers and things of that nature.
Don't love that plan, but I anything that keeps Crochet on the big league roster is a benefit for the 2021 club, no doubt.
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On 12/18/2020 at 12:47 PM, southsider2k5 said:ASSUMING WE HAVE A NORMAL-ISH SEASON
Kopech starts at Charlotte and works up slowly to 5 to 6 innings, and comes up around June unless other problems dictate an earlier arrival.
Crochet starts at Birmingham as a stater, working mostly 75 to 80 pitches an outing getting around a dozen starts between AA and AAA before evenutally coming up as a reliever, to finish the season. He ends up somewhere between 100-120 innings this year.
This. / thread.
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28 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:If they signed him, wouldn't it suggest they'd be moving Madrigal for another cost controlled SP?
Not really. Plenty of room for another bat.
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Could the Sox theoretically sign Colas for whatever it is they have left, and then have a handshake agreement to extend him a few months later so he gets closer to what he'd normally get? Or would that trigger a bunch of tampering / INTL spending limit rules?
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7 hours ago, Dominikk85 said:I would say their roster is pretty complete except for another good reliever or two.
Rotation:
Giolito, keuchel, lynn, two of kopech, cease, lopez, stiever
😄 grandal
1b:jose
2b: madrigal
3b: moncada
ss: timmy
CF: robert
Lf: eloy
Rf: eaton
Bench: engel, mendick, leury
DH: vaughn, Collins, yermin
I think they definitely need one more good reliever but other than that the team looks pretty great.
Sure the back end of the rotation is still a little thin and getting bauer would be great but it still could be a great rotation if kopech comes back decently.
A resounding yes.
Kopech will be in the minors until at least June. He isn't going to throw 150+ innings this year. Stiever isn't ready. And I sure as shit don't want to rely on Reynaldo for 15 starts.
So yes, we do.
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22 hours ago, SoxBlanco said:Would you guys have been ok with that deal with Dahl being our starting RF?
And if not, then Dahl isn’t taking that deal with us when he can take the same deal with another team and actually start.
Not really, but I would have brought him in along with Eaton or whoever else we signed.
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Man $3M for Dahl would have been a home run.
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MARWIN GONZALEZ.
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14 hours ago, Jerksticks said:This isn’t necessarily fact. Why do you assume that the Sox traded a long term asset? Yes, we had control for 6 years, but what if the Sox viewed Dunning as a total nothingburger? What if the Sox thought his value would tank if exposed to more MLB pitching next year?
If you look at it through that lens, like actually look at it that way, wouldn’t you agree that it was not only good, but incredible that they turned this total bust into Lance Lynn?
Time will tell but it’s certainly possible. I’m willing to give the mastermind of this genius rebuild the benefit of the doubt
Because I have eyes. Dunning will not be a bust, barring injuries that could happen to anyone. At worst, he's a rock solid backend SP controlled for 6 years and dirt cheap for 3.
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1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said:Ughhhh, classic.
Except Brantley wouldn't really be an ideal fit for RF, unless they also acquired another OF like Dahl/Eaton, etc., Not too worried about missing out on Brantley. I don't want a clown show in the OF.
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1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:James McCann is going to be disappointing if he plays 100+ games for someone. He's really solid in a split role. Start vs all LHP and really mash.
This x1000. I like McCann. He was really good for the Sox.
But we have one of the best 2-3 catchers in the game, and he's a horse. We need to ride him. McCann would be a poor use of resources on this team.
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1 minute ago, SoCalChiSox said:What about the fact that its seemingly almost impossible for Eloy to play a full healthy season so for those inevitable 20-30 games he's out Schwarber could play LF as well.
There is a place for him here. It involves some musical chairs between him and Vaughn and Eloy but it makes sense.
Yeah, there is a place for a guy that can actually play the OF serviceably. Not for a DH that can stand in LF and be just as bad as Eloy at it, but a far worse hitter.
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14 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:Not sure TLR wants to entrust that fulltime role in a World Series seeking year to a rookie. In any event, Vaughn could still spell Jose at 1B 1 or 2 days a week and DH against LHP. There is a role for both players.
Lol, they're not bringing Vaughn up to ride the bench and only play against lefties and they aren't playing Schwarber over Vaughn once Vaughn arrives.
If the Sox sign Schwarber, they clearly don't think AV is ready. Which goes against most of what we've heard from Hahn.
Schwarber wasn't a fit pre-Eaton, and he's less of a fit now.
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Just now, Yearnin' for Yermin said:They should just use Yermin and Collins at DH until Vaughn is ready
I'd prefer not. But I guess its not the end of the world, and nice to have the option.
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2 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:That's the million dollar question. I'm not sure what's best. You either suck it up and rotate Collins, Grandal, Eloy, etc. at DH for a couple weeks. Or you sign another big bat and keep Vaughn down for a while.
Personally, I want Vaughn up as soon as possible.
I think Vaughn comes up as soon as the extra year is secured assuming he's healthy. No benefit to waiting until June or July (other than super 2, which I dont think they're messing with).
As I just stated in the post previous to this, bringing in another bat should be a priority. But it needs to be someone who can play the field. We don't need a DH.
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Just now, SonofaRoache said:He won't come up until July at the earliest if we sign a DH. The excuse will be that he needs to play in AA and AAA first. Especially if the signed DH is having a great season.
Still doesn't answer the question of what happens to Schwarber when Vaughn arrives. Too many DH types.
If we sign another bat (and we should), it needs to be a guy that can play the field. Dahl, Gonzalez, Kike, LaStella, Profar all far better fits than another DH.
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Just now, Jack Parkman said:People keep saying this, but if they were interested in Brantley they obviously don't think Vaughn is quite MLB ready.
I think it's likely he stays down all year.
I will bet you any sum of money he doesn't stay down all year. You name the price.
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34 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:Hendriks and Schwarber.
So what happens to Schwarber when Vaughn comes up 25 games into the season?
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5 minutes ago, turnin' two said:Maybe I'm underrating him or have missed something, but how is Robbie Grossman in any way a superior player to Adam Eaton. Looking quickly at his BBref page, 6.7 career WAR in 8 years. Negative dWAR. Can't particularly hit. No real power. Doesn't really steal bases. Takes some walks, so that's nice. But even that last 2 years, he is worse than Eaton in every category along the slash line.
What am I missing with him? He seems like the quintessential replacement player.
He's not good.
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20 minutes ago, TomPickle said:- Rosario
- Bradley Jr
- Robbie Grossman
- David Dahl
- Ozuna
- Schwarber
- Brantley
Some of these you're splitting hairs, but I don't know how anyone thinks this is anything but a terrible signing.
Yeah, no. Ozuna, Schwaber, Rosasrio and Brantley are DHs and Sox would have a clown show OF. I probably would have made it work for Brantley, but you pretty much have to sign a guy like Eaton with him anyway. You can't rely on Brantley to play 150+ games in RF, especially with Eloy in LF. Defense would be so bad.
I like Dahl as an option too, but again, can't go into the season penciling Dahl in as the everyday RF. He can still be an option even with Eaton signed.
JBJ I wouldn't have minded, but I think he's at least on par with Eaton.
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1 hour ago, TheTruth05 said:This is good news to get Cruz out of the ALC.
Did I miss a Cruz signing?
New Rumor from Hector
in Pale Hose Talk
Posted
Don't really care to read the 12 pages - is there anything to this? Cruz rumbling still the thought that the first page seemed to think?