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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 13, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) Glad the 2B spot is now open for him. He deserves a shot at being regular IMO. Boy would be nice if Saladino could put up a big first half and be moved for a top 100 prospect or two

This trade was a total bust for both teams.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2017 -> 06:48 PM) I doubt tourists go. Way more to do in Vegas. Day games...like the Cubs have

QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 12, 2017 -> 04:23 PM) What's market share between the cubs and Sox? Serious questions. Would they have a bigger share of just Las Vegas? They aren't going to move. Just an interesting question. They would get some share of parts of states surrounding Nevada that don't have teams. Northern AZ, UT, ID, OR, Inland CA. Plus tourists in town will go to a game or two.

QUOTE (Soha @ Mar 12, 2017 -> 01:29 PM) Hmm, maybe it's just me but I'd find it a lot more interesting if the Sox stayed in Chicago. I wouldn't mind actually catching some games for a change.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Mar 12, 2017 -> 11:45 AM) I think Sox would be a perfect fit for Vegas if Vegas built a new indoor stadium. Great uniforms to market, in fact the best uniforms in baseball. Have a billionaire owner and you'd have quite a match. Probably would take a while to build such a stadium. Would be interesting if the Raiders and White Sox both ended up in Las Vegas. I think it would be the ultimate home field advantage.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 10:39 AM) Here's an article making a case for the Rays to make a run at acquiring Q. The Rays don't strike me as a team bold enough to cough up the haul it would take to get Q. https://www.google.com/amp/www.draysbay.com...t-jose-quintana They traded Smyly and will be trading Archer once his value rises again. They are sellers not buyers.

We would need Giolito (or Lopez) and Moncada to be a few of our best players by seasons end if things were going to get interesting. Don't see it.

Too bad the Dodgers didn't decide to trade for Sale. Q to the Red Sox would've been inevitable.

Just say no. Please no. Give the young guys a chance for once.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 26, 2017 -> 07:06 PM) In 8 years, Tyler Saladino will be 36 years old. Ben Zobrist says hi

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 12:26 AM) Let's face it. Jerry and his group have been horrible owners. Somehow we got a WS during his era and we all should be eternally grateful for that. I can't hate Jerry cause he gave me one WS. However, he's a horrific owner. Thank you Ozzie and the players and, gulp, yes, Kenny for putting that team together. I'd give Jerry an A-plus for the title season. And he gets a D or C-minus for the rest of his tenure. I'll never understand why KW had to mix things up after the WS with the roster. Why trade Rowand when we could've traded Anderson.

This is the equivalent of giving NFL teams a free extra point. Like NFL Blitz. Not good for the game.

I wonder if we could flip Saladino, Frazier, Robertson and Q all at the deadline. Then bring up all the young guys.

I think Nate jones would have to be involved also if sox were getting devers. But then we'd probably be getting back more than just devers

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 11:18 AM) And to go a step further, I see zero chance that Devers is on the table for Frazier, unless Frazier just goes nuts to start the season. And Devers would also have to see some major struggles in AA. He's their top prospect now.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 09:56 PM) Moncada has no chance of going north out of camp and Rick Hahn has made this perfectly clear. They will not be giving up a year of control on any of their key young players that aren't already on the major league roster (i.e. Rodon & Anderson). I agree. Make Moncada earn the call up from AAA. His performance in AA deserved a promotion to AAA but not to the majors quite yet.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 03:32 PM) I am bizarrely locked in. Never had a year like this, the novelty of following development + a great farm system. I'm interested to see how the guys we acquired progress. Also to see if we can find some surprises from scrap heap or AAA or major leaguers who didn't get full time action (Saladino, etc.).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 12, 2017 -> 04:21 PM) I wonder what offers for Weiters look like right now? If we are talking the cheap end, he is absolutely a guy worth taking a shot on. But then Con te giolito will never let us hear the end of how the Sox blew their chance at a top 3 draft pick.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 11, 2017 -> 12:21 AM) are we trying to compete? This guy would make us good at catcher. We're already good at 3B, SS, 2B (if Moncada gets early call) and 1B. We're OK in LF, OK in RF, horrible in CF, horrible at DH. Good at pitching overall. Hmmmm. We'd be a b-Yung Ho away from competing

I don't buy it. Just posturing. The Red Sox moved the #1 prospect who was considered untouchable. No prospect is off limits besides the obvious ones - Turner, Bregman, etc.

Rodon will be our ace this year.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:05 PM) There's being a front office apologist and then there's defending the Shields trade. Even Rick Hahn's dog knew that was a bad trade the instant they made it, let alone now. You might want to go on record with your opinions before claiming everyone felt that way, because that definitely wasn't the case. Go back and read the Shields thread. Going on record helps get rid of the Carpe Diem types awful fast.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 07:45 PM) Best post made on here today. Honestly, Conte Giolito has become such a blowhard, he's made this site difficult to read lately. The admins should really consider giving him a few week time out. It's just brutal. Just add him to your ignore list. Go to his profile and click options drop down on the left side.

QUOTE (JRL @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 12:19 PM) I wouldn't worry about this any more or less than than anyone may/may not have at the time of the trade. Law's rankings are always much more based on "tools" than on actual achievements. Not saying it's bad or good. All prospect rankings are a combination of these 2 considerations. Some tend to lean more to one side or the other though, and Law's are definitely toward the "tools" side. Most other publications do not regard Tatis even reasonably close to as highly as Law. For example, while most other publications haven't released their overall prospect rankings, Baseball America didn't even have him in the Padres Top 10, and noted that he was "not all that close" to making it. MLB Pipeline hasn't come out with their overall prospect rankings or their team rankings yet, but didn't have Tatis on either their new top 10 SS or Top 10 3b rankings, both of which are littered with guys Law had ranked ahead of Tatis. Baseball Prospectus ranks Tatis as the 6th best Padres prospect, but again well below many guys in that system Law has already ranked below Tatis. The best guess would be that Tatis would be a borderline Top 100 guy when Baseball Prospectus comes out with their rankings, and most likely left off. Ultimately, this is an 18 year old who has an absolute ton of raw tools, but has not played much pro ball at all (237 PA total), and what he has played was mostly at Rookie Ball (188 PA) and only a bit at Low A (49 PA), where it's not as if he tore the cover off the ball. I get that much more than that can't be expected since he was 17 last season, but it also means there isn't really sufficient info to reasonably project the degree of his future big league contributions or even whether he'll make any at all, to even nearly the degree we can with other top propsects (which itself really isn't that great, http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2013/12/de...-mckinneys.html). Of course, in hindsight, it is painful to give up a prospect of any value whatsoever (which Tatis undoubtedly is) for James Shields, but just like there is risk on the prospect side of any deal (like the significant chance that Tatis, or even much more accomplished minor league prospects w/ similar tools may not ever contribute at the major league level, or at least not much), there is also risk on the MLB player side of a deal, especially when you're dealing with a lesser level pool of MLB players available to you via trade, due to the organization's severe lack of the quality and quantity of minor leaguers it would take to acquire MLB players from a better talent pool of trade candidates, at that time. Even at the time of the acquisition, the Sox knew they weren't acquiring the 2011-2014 version of Shields. They were playing really well, thought they could contend (however ill-conceived that proposition may now seem in hindsight), saw a gaping hole on the big league roster, had no internal options to improve it, and acquired the player who they reasonably believed gave them the best chance to address that hole, even if they knew it was far from a sure thing that he ultimately would do so, for a uber-talented 17 year old whom neither they, nor anyone else, has anything close to any idea whether he will ever be an everyday major league player. Shields didn't work out, as was a distinct possibility at the time of the deal, and Tatis is still and uber-talented 18 year old whom, to the same degree as was the case at the time the Sox traded him, neither the Sox nor anyone else has anything close to any idea whether he will ever be an every day major league player. I don't care how you try to rationalize it. It was a horrible deal. It was at the time and it still is now. Plenty of people hated it when announced. I was one.