Chicago White Sox Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I didn't hear what Bruce had to say, but Mulley & Hanley are saying he discussed Todd Frazier rumors. If anyone heard the interview, please add the details. And I apologize if I'm totally off-base here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 It was Bruce Miles, not Levine. He kind of mentioned it offhand, like "So what if Frazier got traded?", as if he had heard something and was throwing it out there. They are gonna ask Levine when he calls in today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 08:17 AM) It was Bruce Miles, not Levine. He kind of mentioned it offhand, like "So what if Frazier got traded?", as if he had heard something and was throwing it out there. They are gonna ask Levine when he calls in today Thanks for clarifying. Will be interesting to see what Levine has to say on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Is this because Levine suggested this weekend that the Sox trade Frazier for Bregman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 The only thing I can think of when I hear or see Bruce Levine is that they had as his intro over on ESPN 1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Didnt really cover it much from what i heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I expect Levine to really add some insight here. "And I'm hearing White sox GM rick somebody has been fielding calls on Rod Frazierre". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 08:20 AM) Is this because Levine suggested this weekend that the Sox trade Frazier for Bregman? Lol, that Levine sure is a funny guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Ugh, this would fly in the face of everything that the White Sox are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) The concern is that Frazier is going to ask for a lot of money in arbitration, right? Somewhat understandable as power numbers are sexy, but he doesn't really hit for average. He leads the league in popups and is getting killed by the shift this year. I wouldn't want the Sox to sell on him yet, but I get that the home runs tend to hide a good-not-great player. Edited July 12, 2016 by Deadpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 10:36 AM) The concern is that Frazier is going to ask for a lot of money in arbitration, right? Somewhat understandable as power numbers are sexy, but he doesn't really hit for average. He leads the league in popups and is getting killed by the shift this year. I wouldn't want the Sox to sell on him yet, but I get that the home runs tend to hide a good-not-great player. Just a general estimate based on last year - Arolids Chapman went into Arbitration with a salary of $8 million and 1 year away from free agency, wound up at $11.325 million this year. I think that's probably, plus or minus a million dollars, the range Frazier probably would look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 12:10 PM) Just a general estimate based on last year - Arolids Chapman went into Arbitration with a salary of $8 million and 1 year away from free agency, wound up at $11.325 million this year. I think that's probably, plus or minus a million dollars, the range Frazier probably would look at. I want to say there was discussions about a 6/100 deal when he was with Cincy still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I'd package Frazier and David Robertson in a blockbuster. Sox get 5-6 Bosox prospects or Dodger prospects or Yankee prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) I'd package Frazier and David Robertson in a blockbuster. Sox get 5-6 Bosox prospects or Dodger prospects or Yankee prospects? That's actually one of your less bad ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) I'd package Frazier and David Robertson in a blockbuster. Sox get 5-6 Bosox prospects or Dodger prospects or Yankee prospects? Not getting Boston prospects for them. They want starting pitching first and foremost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Trading Robertson and Frazier at one tme would be great. The Sox might do better off just trading Robertson right now, Then bring up Burdi and Fulmer . Edited July 12, 2016 by miracleon35th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 2B/3B is where Moncada will go, likely 3B to start because Shaw is more expendable than Pedroia. They just traded for Ziegler, so they're not going to add another closer at the cost of Benitendi...especially when that closer is paid in the same territory salary-wise as Jonathan Papelbon. They'll be be fine when Kimbrel returns from surgery with Uehara, Tazawa, Ziegler and Kimbrel, plus some of their failed starters or prospects can be thrown into the mix if need be. Pre-Ziegler trade, it would actually have made some sense, but there's still no way we were getting Moncada back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 05:03 PM) Trading Robertson and Frazier at one tme would be great. The Sox might do better off just trading Robertson right now, Then bring up Burdi and Fulmer . Burdi is far from being ready. He looks like he needs at least 1 year in the minors so not before middle of next season. And with how much Fulmer has struggled in AA he needs at least another year in the minors if he's going to be a starter. If he finishes strong in AA then he can start next year at AAA and be an early call up if he has success. Look at a guy like Mengden in Oakland who basically dominated AA and AAA this year and he has only been mediocre at the major league level. It's a big step to make. Edited July 13, 2016 by soxforlife05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 06:14 PM) Pre-Ziegler trade, it would actually have made some sense, but there's still no way we were getting Moncada back. The only way the Sox get Moncoda is if they are willing to part with Quintana. I would peg Frazier's value at one top 50 prospect and a lower lever guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 08:49 PM) Burdi is far from being ready. He looks like he needs at least 1 year in the minors so not before middle of next season. And with how much Fulmer has struggled in AA he needs at least another year in the minors if he's going to be a starter. If he finishes strong in AA then he can start next year at AAA and be an early call up if he has success. Look at a guy like Mengden in Oakland who basically dominated AA and AAA this year and he has only been mediocre at the major league level. It's a big step to make. Its looking like fulmer and burdi will be up this year unless they totally bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 "Rumored conjecture"? So basically it's a rumored opinion? lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 They can't trade Frazier anyway. Not if they want to compete in 2017. Unless they're counting on Saladino again at that position. Or Davidson. At any rate, it won't happen as long as Hahnilliams is still around to make the decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 10:28 PM) They can't trade Frazier anyway. Not if they want to compete in 2017. Unless they're counting on Saladino again at that position. Or Davidson. At any rate, it won't happen as long as Hahnilliams is still around to make the decisions. I agree that there is close to zero chance that Hahn/Williams trade Frazier. But if they shore up other spots via that trade, they certainly could compete. He's no difference maker. Saladino should be getting more at bats the way this team is stacked up anyway. it would be nice to see what they have in him (although eagle-eye Hahn is likely convinced he's a utility infielder). While I realize that the prime motivation in drafting Burdi was this year's pen, it would be ridiculous to bring him up. Edited July 13, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 08:56 PM) I agree that there is close to zero chance that Hahn/Williams trade Frazier. But if they shore up other spots via that trade, they certainly could compete. He's no difference maker. Saladino should be getting more at bats the way this team is stacked up anyway. it would be nice to see what they have in him (although eagle-eye Hahn is likely convinced he's a utility infielder). While I realize that the prime motivation in drafting Burdi was this year's pen, it would be ridiculous to bring him up. If the Sox are going to utilize Saladino he needs to play some OF to go along with his infield skills. I know he hurt his arm ( elbow ?) making a throw from the OF in the minors but so what . If he wants to play more and get more AB's than Avi he should be all for it. He's fast enough and athletic enough to play OF decently and would be worth more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 11:08 PM) If the Sox are going to utilize Saladino he needs to play some OF to go along with his infield skills. I know he hurt his arm ( elbow ?) making a throw from the OF in the minors but so what . If he wants to play more and get more AB's than Avi he should be all for it. He's fast enough and athletic enough to play OF decently and would be worth more. Or, we could 3B Saladino, 1B Frazier, DH Abreu vs LHP. Morneau as DH vs RHP with no Saladino. No Avi ever. Problem solved Edited July 13, 2016 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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