fathom Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 On the radio yesterday, Barry Rosner said the Rangers and Dodgers are the two teams really going after Sale. Doesn't seem like Boston is involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 09:34 AM) It's amazing how fans think their teams can deal 3 mediocre prospects for Chris Sale. This isn't the world that general managers live in. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/759033683705724928 Yeah. If (big if) the Sox do trade Sale, many fans of the other team will s*** their pants over what the team gives up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 He should demand the most. He is the top trade chip on the market in ALL of MLB. Probably the top trade chip available in the past half decade. A Cy Young candidate year in and year out who is under a friendly contract for years to come. That doesn't come along. It's also what makes me sick to my stomach. If this team can't win with 2 pitchers that are top 8 in WAR since 2013 under team friendly contracts........ then when are they going to be competent enough to win? This team should have Cespedes on it. should have never had Rollins on it. Just think about this team and its offense if Jerry spent in the offseason. But he half asses it. Give the guy $32mm and MAKE him choose us. Who cares. You'd have a totally different team right now. You trade for a guy like Lucroy. You go all in on your "three year plan" But no, they half ass. Imagine where we'd be with those two guys..... Eaton, Cespedes, Melky in the OF Frazier, Anderson, Lawrie, Abreu, Lucroy And whoever at DH paired with our pitching staff? Tell me that isn't a first place team right now and we're not talking WS and packing in 25,000 a night easily. We were literally 2 bats away from being a front-runner. But we half assed to the point where trading a top 5 pitcher in the game seems like the best route... Oh to be a Sox fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 09:36 AM) On the radio yesterday, Barry Rosner said the Rangers and Dodgers are the two teams really going after Sale. Doesn't seem like Boston is involved Urias +++ makes the most sense for the Sox. They get the next Chris Sale, and some other pieces. Sharing a facility with the Dodgers in AZ, they should be as clear on who they like in their system more than any other team in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Still think it's unlikely that Chris Sale gets dealt. But FWIW, the Rangers, Orioles, Marlins & Nationals all had scouts at his start Thurs https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/759066541241532416 Rangers are probably scouting sale. Nationals are probably looking at bullpen pieces. No idea what the marlins and Orioles would be looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 The Texas #Rangers continue to be the most aggressive team in the pursuit of #Whitesox ace Chris Sale, but Sox asking price remains steep. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/759068717238018049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) The Texas #Rangers continue to be the most aggressive team in the pursuit of #Whitesox ace Chris Sale, but Sox asking price remains steep. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/759068717238018049 Has to include Mazara. Drop Profar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Bob Nightingale The #Whitesox still want Joey Gallo and Nomar Mazara from #Rangers in any deal for Chris Sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:54 AM) Has to include Mazara. Drop Profar. I'll take Profar as the 3rd or 4th piece. Mazara/Gallo/Brinson/Ortiz/Tate would do it without Profar. Problem remains that it just decimates their lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) Has to include Mazara. Drop Profar. I would take a package centered around Mazara and whatever their three best prospects are. Sox can produce pitching but a stud like Mazara they'll never find on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 The #Whitesox still want Joey Gallo and Nomar Mazara from #Rangers in any deal for Chris Sale Nightengale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Gallo, Mazara, Brinson, Profar and Ortiz would be good enough for me I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Daniels will come around. Good chance they lose Darvish to free agency next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 05:02 PM) Gallo, Mazara, Brinson, Profar and Ortiz would be good enough for me I think. Absolutely. I could see Brinson out and Mendez in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I really doubt Sale will be traded. But if by chance he is, hopefully security sweeps the clubhouse for sharp objects before the trade is announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 That Rangers package is not very enticing to me to be honest... I know we're talking about prospects but all the fan-proposed Boston deals seem like a surer thing to me than guys like Gallo, Profar, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:55 AM) Bob Nightingale The #Whitesox still want Joey Gallo and Nomar Mazara from #Rangers in any deal for Chris Sale The fact it is Nightingale and he mentions specific names tells me discussions are happening and games are being played. He doesn't get that info by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Also, Sale's value is even more incredible. Skill and team control aside, just look at what Cashner and Pomeranz type pitchers are getting. Oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 For the first time, I'm going out on a limb and saying he gets dealt to Texas. I think they budge. I think it could be one of the biggest trades ever. Sale, reliever, maybe Melky or Frazier for Mazara, Gallo, Profar, Tate, Ortiz and 2 other specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) On off chance either team gets serious about Chris Sale, White Sox scouted #RedSox Double-A club last night (Moncada, Benintendi, Dubon,etc) https://twitter.com/ScottLauber/status/759073132883824640 Doesnt hurt to make sure Edited July 29, 2016 by Baron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 12:08 PM) Also, Sale's value is even more incredible. Skill and team control aside, just look at what Cashner and Pomeranz type pitchers are getting. Oh my. That's why the names of prospects we throw out there aren't far fetched. He's THAT valuable. Plus he's durable unlike Darvish. I honestly think he's dealt. I would be shocked if Boston doesn't get involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 12:10 PM) That's why the names of prospects we throw out there aren't far fetched. He's THAT valuable. Plus he's durable unlike Darvish. I honestly think he's dealt. I would be shocked if Boston doesn't get involved if we trade Sale.. Hopefully we get at least 3 out of the below 6, along with Mazara who I consider a MUST. If we can get 4 prospect of this caliber I am fine with it. Gallo Brinson Ortiz Tate Mendez Profar Odor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Here's Cameron's take http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/finding-a-f...for-chris-sale/ I don't understand the Profar deal; only 3 years of control and, frankly, "where's the beef?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 12:20 PM) if we trade Sale.. Hopefully we get at least 3 out of the below 6, along with Mazara who I consider a MUST. If we can get 4 prospect of this caliber I am fine with it. Gallo Brinson Ortiz Tate Mendez Profar Odor Oh Mazara is a must and I think today proves that. I'm not a huge fan of Gallo but he'd at least bring some much needed power to the lineup. I'm only fine with Gallo and Profar if they're not headlining the deal. You'll never get Odor IMO. I'd love to but I don't think they would that's why they're asking for Mazara and Gallo. Edited July 29, 2016 by SouthSideSale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:51 AM) Still think it's unlikely that Chris Sale gets dealt. But FWIW, the Rangers, Orioles, Marlins & Nationals all had scouts at his start Thurs https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/759066541241532416 Rangers are probably scouting sale. Nationals are probably looking at bullpen pieces. No idea what the marlins and Orioles would be looking at. Anyone else find the absurdity in teams scouting Chris Sale!? Why don't they save their scouting budget and just watch Sports Center where most of his pitches usually make highlights anyway. It's like us sending a scout to watch Clayton Kershaw...to see if he has what it takes to be good some day. Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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