Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 02:58 PM) We just traded for a 4th OF type and he was ranked as our 5th best prospect by MLB.com. That should be a wake up call to everyone that this organization doesn't have the resources needed to put together a winning team anytime soon. We need to blow it up whether or not Hahn & KW are in charge or not. But again that comes down from jerry not hahn or kw choices or whoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Also I have nothing to base this on, other than the return for Duke, but I get the impression that we aren't seeing any action because Hahn is still targeting guys on the cusp of the majors rather than high ceiling prospects. This is a FO that is unwilling to accept risk, and for that, they shall be perpetually crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) I have this awful feeling that holding on to Sale past the deadline is somehow going to bite this organization in the ass. Shhhh don't jinx him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 02:59 PM) Yes but not alot of teams has what it takes to acquire sale or Quintana. Going to be most likey same teams now that are in contention and the off season. Boston, texas, dodgers and now the yankees are probablya few of the teams that have resources to acquire sale or q. Not sure really any other teams that can. That's my view as well. The teams that would want Sale and have the means to acquire him are in the playoff hunt right now. Not sure waiting until the offseason is going to benefit us with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I would be really curious to see what is actually being offered before really judging whether the Sox screwed this up or not. Without knowing what was on the table, it is all assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:00 PM) But again that comes down from jerry not hahn or kw choices or whoever Comes from both. Obviously Reinsdorf has ultimate say, but it's up to Hahn & KW to convince him that going for it in 2017 in a foolish strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) I would be really curious to see what is actually being offered before really judging whether the Sox screwed this up or not. Without knowing what was on the table, it is all assumptions. This. If we don't trade them, we didn't get a good enough haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) I would be really curious to see what is actually being offered before really judging whether the Sox screwed this up or not. Without knowing what was on the table, it is all assumptions. No doubt, but all the insiders are implying we're not very serious about dealing Sale. That message is a bit worrisome IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) This. If we don't trade them, we didn't get a good enough haul. Or they simply are unrealistic with their demands. The reality is we'll never know. However, the rest of the moves they make should speak volumes. If they only make a couple smaller deals and then try to convince us that guys like Tilson can fill our holes, I'll assume they were always prepared for more retooling BS and were never serious about dealing Sale or Quintana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) Comes from both. Obviously Reinsdorf has ultimate say, but it's up to Hahn & KW to convince him that going for it in 2017 in a foolish strategy. Hahn probably wants to rebuild. We know jerry doesnt and kenny is always going for it. Kinda fighting a up hill battle for hahn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:19 PM) Hahn probably wants to rebuild. We know jerry doesnt and kenny is always going for it. Kinda fighting a up hill battle for hahn If that's all true, then Hahn should consider resigning, because his bosses are setting him up for failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo8 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) If that's all true, then Hahn should consider resigning, because his bosses are setting him up for failure.i agree kennny and jerry need to go they need to understand you can run a team like this anymore now a days team bulid from the draft and minors Edited July 31, 2016 by gosoxtim8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) No doubt, but all the insiders are implying we're not very serious about dealing Sale. That message is a bit worrisome IMO. I have also read things about how teams aren't including their best prospects, such as the Red Sox not including Moncada. I would be way more upset about a second rate return than Sale returning to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) Bud Norris just got pulled from game for injury. Maybe Dodgers get more desperate Edited July 31, 2016 by WhiteSoxLifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo8 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:26 PM) I have also read things about how teams aren't including their best prospects, such as the Red Sox not including Moncada. I would be way more upset about a second rate return than Sale returning to us.i would think quintana would gave us moncada not sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The lack of rumors is kind of puzzling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) The lack of rumors is kind of puzzling. Very. Realize the white sox broke the duke trade. They must be incognito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 White sox have been fairly quiet about moves lately. We'll see if anything breaks before tomorrow or heats up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Jack29 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (gosoxtim8 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) i would think quintana would gave us moncada not sale For either Sale or Q, I'd want both Moncada and Jackie Bradley. And I doubt the Red Sox want to part with the latter while they're trying to get into the playoffs. Edited July 31, 2016 by Black_Jack29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 04:46 PM) For either Sale or Q, I'd want both Moncada and Jackie Bradley. And I doubt the Red Sox want to part with the latter while they're trying to get into the playoffs. I want Moncada, Benintendi and Devers. If those three are offered, I'm taking the deal for Sale no questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox1917 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) I want Moncada, Benintendi and Devers. If those three are offered, I'm taking the deal for Sale no questions asked. ++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox1917 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) I want Moncada, Benintendi and Devers. If those three are offered, I'm taking the deal for Sale no questions asked. Give me kopech instead of devers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Red Sox pursuit of Chris Sale or some other high-end starter has struck out so far. Telling people not optimistic they can do something big https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/759860651820855296 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Am I the only one expecting a stealth bomb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 04:23 PM) I'm well past giving this front office the benefit of the doubt, BUT in terms of Sale, there is no NEED to move him at this deadline. But if you have a plan (please God for once have a plan), then you best be confident you can get the package you are looking for this winter with more teams in the hunt for an ace. If we go into the offseason with both Sale and Q you know we're going for it again in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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