shipps Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 ptact have you at least come around to think its a possibility that Hahn doesnt have all the power that a GM should have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 11:21 AM) ptact have you at least come around to think its a possibility that Hahn doesnt have all the power that a GM should have? Now this is truly unbelievable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Edwards Shot Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Aug 16, 2016 -> 02:05 PM) And all of us sox fans need to thank jerry for keeping kenny around when he should of been let go to Toronto. Jerry and kenny have really messed up this organization for the last 16 years. According to to baseball america the sox had the #1 farm system in baseball in 2001. Since then kenny has dragged it down the the middle of the pack then to one of the bottom in his time frame of being gm. Kinda funny reading baseball America saying year after year of kenny trading away prospects for veteran players and jerry not spening more in drafts and international market. Luckily we got a world series out of it and one other playoff appearance in that time frame I can't believe that this franchise has only been to the playoffs TWICE in the past 16 years in a 5 team division. I repeat that fact to myself every so often and stare off into space in utter disbelief that it's true. How pathetic. The only saving grace is that one of our playoff appearances got us the whole banana. Edited August 17, 2016 by Doc Edwards Shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Doc Edwards Shot @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 12:56 PM) I can't believe that this franchise has only been to the playoffs TWICE in the past 16 years in a 5 team division. I repeat that fact to myself every so often and stare off into space in utter disbelief that it's true. How pathetic. The only saving grace is that one of our playoff appearances got us the whole banana. They've only earned the right to go to the playoffs ONCE after playing regulation 162 games in those 16 years, the 16 years, coincidentally, when some configuration of Reinsdorf, Williams, and Hahn has been the team's brain trust. Thank god for Reinsdorf's comforting confirmation that they are all 100% on the same page. Would hate to see anything interfere with the winning formula they've exhibited for over a decade and a half now. Edited August 18, 2016 by Thad Bosley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 05:47 PM) Thank god for Reinsdorf's comforting confirmation that they are all 100% on the same page. Would hate to see anything interfere with the winning formula they've exhibited for over a decade and a half now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 07:47 PM) They've only earned the right to go to the playoffs ONCE after playing regulation 162 games in those 16 years, the 16 years, coincidentally, when some configuration of Reinsdorf, Williams, and Hahn has been the team's brain trust. Thank god for Reinsdorf's comforting confirmation that they are all 100% on the same page. Would hate to see anything interfere with the winning formula they've exhibited for over a decade and a half now. I hope that this isn't the same page that they claim to be on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) I hope that this isn't the same page that they claim to be on.hmmm photo didnt come out try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 08:34 PM) hmmm photo didnt come out try again Post of the week!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Post of the year. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain54 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 09:45 PM) Post of the week!!!!!!!!!!!!! You forgot Krukie. John Kruk in 1995 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 QUOTE (captain54 @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 10:24 PM) You forgot Krukie. John Kruk in 1995 I didn't put him on only because he had 159 at bats but did bat 308. If he was below 250 he would have made it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain54 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 10:27 PM) I didn't put him on only because he had 159 at bats but did bat 308. If he was below 250 he would have made it He literally could barely run to first base because of his knees..…that's why I thought he might qualify Edited August 18, 2016 by captain54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Julio Franco? Steve Carlton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 11:26 PM) Julio Franco? Steve Carlton? Franco had an absolutely terrific 1994 hitting with Robin and Frank. The guy drove in 98 RBI's, hit .319 and had 20 home runs when the season was cancelled. I'll take that every time. Regarding Carlton, I'd take these numbers too, in ten games, Carlton would have four wins, a 3.69 ERA and 40 strikeouts in 63 innings before being released at season’s end. He made his debut with the Sox on August 17 by the way so that was nice timing. I noticed Andruw Jones' name on the picture. (His name was misspelled by the way LOL) Again the guy put up 19 home runs and 48 RBI's playing in 107 games. For a back up outfielder...I'd LOVE to have anybody on the Sox today coming off the bench who could do that. Canseco bailed the Sox out in the power department after Frank went down for the season with the torn triceps in his shoulder / arm. Jose hit 16 homers and drove in 49 RBI's in 76 games. And Youkilis? Only 15 homers and 46 RBI's in 80 games and he helped close a major chasm at third base. Some of the names on that list deserve to be there...others don't in my opinion. Mark Edited August 18, 2016 by Lip Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Should have gone with Sveum or Sabo, haha. Steve Sax or Cory Snyder. Ellis Burks was of the few veterans who outperformed expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 George Foster also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 01:19 AM) Franco had an absolutely terrific 1994 hitting with Robin and Frank. The guy drove in 98 RBI's, hit .319 and had 20 home runs when the season was cancelled. I'll take that every time. Regarding Carlton, I'd take these numbers too, in ten games, Carlton would have four wins, a 3.69 ERA and 40 strikeouts in 63 innings before being released at season's end. He made his debut with the Sox on August 17 by the way so that was nice timing. I noticed Andruw Jones' name on the picture. (His name was misspelled by the way LOL) Again the guy put up 19 home runs and 48 RBI's playing in 107 games. For a back up outfielder...I'd LOVE to have anybody on the Sox today coming off the bench who could do that. Canseco bailed the Sox out in the power department after Frank went down for the season with the torn triceps in his shoulder / arm. Jose hit 16 homers and drove in 49 RBI's in 76 games. And Youkilis? Only 15 homers and 46 RBI's in 80 games and he helped close a major chasm at third base. Some of the names on that list deserve to be there...others don't in my opinion. Mark Agreed on all parts. Just some examples of some others (even with some short good stints) were still gotten past prime and didn't last long in the system, and were kind of used as patches to fill holes instead of being acquired earlier in their careers when they were at their peak. I saw the Jones typo (LOL) after it was already posted) Oh yeah ...Forgot Swisher as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 you can find tasty things in the dumpster once in a while. you just don't want to build your entire diet around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Swisher and Javy weren't past their prime vets or close to future Hall of Famers, either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 both need to be fired. And an outside guy is needed to clean house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 05:59 AM) both need to be fired. And an outside guy is needed to clean house. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Way too many questionable Draft picks, bad trades, and bad deals have cost the White Sox a lot of money and set back the franchise in terms of becoming more competitive. Assuming that heads will roll, who might Reinsdorf interview to replace Kenny Williams and Hahn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Way too many questionable Draft picks, bad trades, and bad deals have cost the White Sox a lot of money and set back the franchise in terms of becoming more competitive. Assuming that heads will roll, who might Reinsdorf interview to replace Kenny Williams and Hahn? According to the boss himself, KW and Hahn are in lockstep and that the 'plan' will be clear this offseason. In other words-- they will both return and there will be more retooling and half measures heading into 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2...w=670&h=521 Maybe he just doesn't want to watch, but I'm thinking Shields shouldn't be looking away as he is releasing the ball. Perhaps maybe it is part of his command problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 22, 2016 -> 02:45 PM) https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2...w=670&h=521 Maybe he just doesn't want to watch, but I'm thinking Shields shouldn't be looking away as he is releasing the ball. Perhaps maybe it is part of his command problems. Could be right. But may also be doing that in anticipating of getting his head knocked off by the way he has been getting jacked by the opposition him lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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