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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 4, 2016 -> 03:58 PM)
Your argument is ridiculous and you know it, the White Sox can't compete with the Dodger financially, and that extends to the minor leagues.

Then we need to be happy with 3rd and 4th place finishes. Because sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending that injuries don't happen does not actually prevent injuries.

 

Every single year there's a team like this. The Cardinals were banged up to hell and back last year and won 100 games. The Dodgers have basically lost their entire starting rotation this year. And of course you ignored the note about the Indians losing Brantley, some of their starters for short stints, and Byrd.

 

But please, tell me again how the White Sox lost 20% fewer games to the DL this year than the Royals but the Royals and Indians are these payroll juggernauts and the White Sox can't compete with them financially.

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Injuries are not what cost the White Sox this year...it was the complete lack of depth and quality in their minor league system that has absolutely killed them.

 

None of the players we lost were any better than replacement level...the big problem is the ones who came next were even worse.

 

Shields just compounded the problem.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2016 -> 04:02 PM)
Then we need to be happy with 3rd and 4th place finishes. Because sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending that injuries don't happen does not actually prevent injuries.

 

Every single year there's a team like this. The Cardinals were banged up to hell and back last year and won 100 games. The Dodgers have basically lost their entire starting rotation this year. And of course you ignored the note about the Indians losing Brantley, some of their starters for short stints, and Byrd.

 

But please, tell me again how the White Sox lost 20% fewer games to the DL this year than the Royals but the Royals and Indians are these payroll juggernauts and the White Sox can't compete with them financially.

Whatever.

 

There is no question the Sox need to be deeper. If you have no depth, injuries hurt more. But since the Sox waved the White flag, they re going to lose more games than they would have had they been in contention. Ranaudo and Shileds wouldn't be pitching, and most of these minor leaguers wouldn't be getting a shot. This right now is part of rebuilding, something supposedly many want but constantly complain about when these guys are in the line up.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 4, 2016 -> 04:07 PM)
Whatever.

 

There is no question the Sox need to be deeper. If you have no depth, injuries hurt more. But since the Sox waved the White flag, they re going to lose more games than they would have had they been in contention. Ranaudo and Shileds wouldn't be pitching, and most of these minor leaguers wouldn't be getting a shot. This right now is part of rebuilding, something supposedly many want but constantly complain about when these guys are in the line up.

 

One does not pick up a James Shields because they wish to rebuild.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2016 -> 03:02 PM)
Then we need to be happy with 3rd and 4th place finishes. Because sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending that injuries don't happen does not actually prevent injuries.

 

Every single year there's a team like this. The Cardinals were banged up to hell and back last year and won 100 games. The Dodgers have basically lost their entire starting rotation this year. And of course you ignored the note about the Indians losing Brantley, some of their starters for short stints, and Byrd.

 

But please, tell me again how the White Sox lost 20% fewer games to the DL this year than the Royals but the Royals and Indians are these payroll juggernauts and the White Sox can't compete with them financially.

 

You left out the Almonte PEDs suspension.

 

Carrasco was also hurt in the first half, but of course they had the depth in their rotation to replace him with Bauer.

 

KC lost four All-Stars...our guys missing time were the likes of Davidson, Kevan Smith, Tilson, Jason Coats, Avila and Austin Jackson.

 

If the loss of Avila, Jackson and two middling relievers kills you...good luck.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 4, 2016 -> 04:07 PM)
Whatever.

 

There is no question the Sox need to be deeper. If you have no depth, injuries hurt more. But since the Sox waved the White flag, they re going to lose more games than they would have had they been in contention. Ranaudo and Shileds wouldn't be pitching, and most of these minor leaguers wouldn't be getting a shot. This right now is part of rebuilding, something supposedly many want but constantly complain about when these guys are in the line up.

Note that the guys who were "white flag" traded were Navarro and Duke, neither of whom is obviously going to replace Ranaudo or Shields.

 

Well maybe Shields. Navarro probably could have outpitched him.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2016 -> 04:11 PM)
Note that the guys who were "white flag" traded were Navarro and Duke, neither of whom is obviously going to replace Ranaudo or Shields.

 

Well maybe Shields. Navarro probably could have outpitched him.

 

 

 

There are guys playing now that wouldn't be if they had a shot.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2016 -> 03:11 PM)
Note that the guys who were "white flag" traded were Navarro and Duke, neither of whom is obviously going to replace Ranaudo or Shields.

 

Well maybe Shields. Navarro probably could have outpitched him.

 

Well, Carson Fulmer and Beck starting in significant games against AL Central opponents would be entertaining.

 

Maybe we could rush up Burdi as well. Heck, forget about Collins developing as a catcher, he's got a big league ready bat right now so we can live with him behind the plate.

 

Instant playoff appearance.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 4, 2016 -> 04:16 PM)
Well, Carson Fulmer and Beck starting in significant games against AL Central opponents would be entertaining.

 

Maybe we could rush up Burdi as well. Heck, forget about Collins developing as a catcher, he's got a big league ready bat right now so we can live with him behind the plate.

 

Instant playoff appearance.

They could try a 3 man rotation?

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Great, now Avi Garcia gets the starting DH job again for 2017, haha.

 

 

In the end, Tigers' money wins yet again. We'll see it for another series starting tmrw.

Upton with 7 homers in his last 14 games and 18 for his last 52 at-bats.

 

But we have a chance. Miguel Gonzalez is coming back.

 

 

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