Dunt Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 07:27 AM) Is he going to play a position or pitch in the majors though? Pitch IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Aaron Fitt @aaronfitt 16m16 minutes ago What a start to the season for @DiamondHeels ace J.B. Bukauskas. Fanned 11 over 7 shutout today; now has 21-2 K-BB, 6 H, 0.00 ERA in 13 IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Faedo was great vs Miami tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Some dude, whom I totally forgot the name of, hit 3 HR tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 25, 2017 -> 12:46 AM) Some dude, whom I totally forgot the name of, hit 3 HR tonight. Gavin Sheets. Wake Forest. NC State's Brock Deatherage had himself a night too. http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/col...KbY2i1uXOWLp.97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 All aboard the Brady McConnell train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Alex from Fangraphs said that the Sox are looking to acquire athletic guys that play premium positions, which is something they lack in their system Edited February 26, 2017 by Joshua Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Feb 25, 2017 -> 08:32 PM) Alex from Fangraphs said that the Sox are looking to acquire athletic guys that play premium positions, which is something they lack in their system This isn't surprising. Nick Hostetler learned from Schuerholz's Braves. Power pitching and athletes was the model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Feb 25, 2017 -> 08:32 PM) Alex from Fangraphs said that the Sox are looking to acquire athletic guys that play premium positions, which is something they lack in their system Beer might not go 1:1 overall because he projects to be a 1B at the next level He is a great hitter, but not overly athletic and is pretty limited in the outfield I'm hearing from scouts Very few college outfielders have gone no 1 overall, let alone one who projects to play 1st base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Feb 25, 2017 -> 08:32 PM) Alex from Fangraphs said that the Sox are looking to acquire athletic guys that play premium positions, which is something they lack in their system Beer might not go 1:1 overall because he projects to be a 1B at the next level He is a great hitter, but not overly athletic and is pretty limited in the outfield I'm hearing from scouts Very few college outfielders have gone no 1 overall, let alone one who projects to play 1st base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 26, 2017 -> 07:00 PM) This isn't surprising. Nick Hostetler learned from Schuerholz's Braves. Power pitching and athletes was the model. And guys with really high ceilings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 09:40 AM) Beer might not go 1:1 overall because he projects to be a 1B at the next level He is a great hitter, but not overly athletic and is pretty limited in the outfield I'm hearing from scouts Very few college outfielders have gone no 1 overall, let alone one who projects to play 1st base Pat Burrell, Darin Erstad, Nevin didn't play a premium psotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 04:50 PM) Pat Burrell, Darin Erstad, Nevin didn't play a premium psotion And looking back at their careers, does anyone think they warranted their draft selection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 They were productive big leaguers for a number of years, so there's that. Beer will probably give you the most certainty of a big league career, at the very least. But, I remember the same thing said about Smoak. He did give you big league innings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Actually Pat Burrell had >10 WAR his in his cost-controlled years, I bet he holds up pretty well. Erstad had 20 WAR in his cost-controlled years. So I think the main problem was their long unproductive tail, but overall for the drafting team that's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 01:11 PM) Actually Pat Burrell had >10 WAR his in his cost-controlled years, I bet he holds up pretty well. Erstad had 20 WAR in his cost-controlled years. So I think the main problem was their long unproductive tail, but overall for the drafting team that's pretty good. This. Especially Erstad was well worth the draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 11:41 AM) And looking back at their careers, does anyone think they warranted their draft selection? Based on the couple responses above, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 And while Nevin wasn't exactly a HOFer, he had a pretty long productive career. Not sure it qualifies as a miss to draft a guy with an OPS better than .800 over a dozen years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Well, I flat-out disagree. I think if you're drafting 1-1 you're hoping it turns out a little better than "economically viable" over the life of the contract or whatever. You're hoping for a high-impact player, potentially a perennial AS...I don't think Pat Burrell/Phil Nevin/Darin Erstad are the poster boy for that. If we go into the 2018 draft and select some guy at 1-1 or even 1-2 and the comps are Phil Nevin or Darin Erstad I am going to be a bit disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 10:52 PM) Well, I flat-out disagree. I think if you're drafting 1-1 you're hoping it turns out a little better than "economically viable" over the life of the contract or whatever. You're hoping for a high-impact player, potentially a perennial AS...I don't think Pat Burrell/Phil Nevin/Darin Erstad are the poster boy for that. If we go into the 2018 draft and select some guy at 1-1 or even 1-2 and the comps are Phil Nevin or Darin Erstad I am going to be a bit disappointed. 20 WAR is really good! I think the thing is most Phils fans would probably say Burrell did not max out his potential, and many would say same for Erstad. Easy to see for Erstad because he had an 8 WAR season coupled by many frustrating seasons. BUT, was an all-star and finished 8th while being a good outfielder. Burrell finished with some good stats but more when looking at them by today's standards. But it's pretty easy to find articles about Phils fans being disappointed in Burrell, thinking he'd be the next Mike Schmidt or whomever. His bat was never as good as they hoped it would be. Looking back at that 1998 draft, it wasn't very good. I think you'd rather have peak JD Drew years (sorry Phillies) but he'd probably be behind Mulder. So the point is, at 1-1, shoot for the stars, and you may still end up with a disappointing player that was also maybe an all star or at least one of the best players on your team. But, looking at this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_first...all_draft_picks Easy to forget how tainted 1-1 was when you had a bunch of players taken because they were cheaper. 1-1 looks a HELL of a lot better the last 5 years. I'd prefer a shortstop but if Beer ends up with Schwarbers bat and Melkys current defense, I'd be okay with that. Probably a many time all-star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 11:41 AM) And looking back at their careers, does anyone think they warranted their draft selection? Hindsight is 20/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I think a lot of people are overvaluing Seth Beer, yeah I've been on the bandwagon for a while (I prefer Gray to him) but let's stop labeling him the savior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 03:10 AM) I think a lot of people are overvaluing Seth Beer, yeah I've been on the bandwagon for a while (I prefer Gray to him) but let's stop labeling him the savior. Probably. He loses a lot of luster as a 1b. But dingers are fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Oh man. Are they really down on his defense? Has he only been playing 1B this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 If his bat is as good as advertised, he can DH for all I care and I'd still take him 1st overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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