Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 09:43 AM) While I don't think you can allow Russia to have superior nuclear technology, this highlights probably my greatest fear with Trump as president, the fact he may do something stupid or drive other countries to do something stupid. Reading some people pointing out that a big driver in the US and Russia pulling back from an "arms race" is that an arms race pushes the probability of accidents higher - there's a legendary 20 minute stretch in 1983 when a Soviet computer sent out a false alarm saying the U.S. had launched missiles at the Soviets and it came down to basically one guy saying his gut said it was a false alarm and waiting 20 minutes to see if he was vaporized to avoid a retaliatory strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 10:26 AM) Reading some people pointing out that a big driver in the US and Russia pulling back from an "arms race" is that an arms race pushes the probability of accidents higher - there's a legendary 20 minute stretch in 1983 when a Soviet computer sent out a false alarm saying the U.S. had launched missiles at the Soviets and it came down to basically one guy saying his gut said it was a false alarm and waiting 20 minutes to see if he was vaporized to avoid a retaliatory strike. Sounds like the ending of War Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) Sounds like the ending of War Games. "This is Crystal Palace. Are you still on?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 12:20 PM) Sounds like the ending of War Games. Yup. Basically that really happened. So yeah, probably good reason not to push these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Plus, in a nuclear arms race, there's a point where it simply doesn't make sense. With 7000 nukes (or whatever we have right now), we can blow up the world 10 times over. What's the point in adding more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (farmteam @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) Plus, in a nuclear arms race, there's a point where it simply doesn't make sense. With 7000 nukes (or whatever we have right now), we can blow up the world 10 times over. What's the point in adding more? To prove we have bigger d***s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Trump Aide Partnered With Firm Run by Man With Alleged KGB Ties https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...lleged-kgb-ties This is the same aide who traffics in crazy conspiracy theories just like trump, violated the rules for handling classified materials, was working for Turkey while sitting in on Trump's security breifings, and is his national security advisor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StrangeSox Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) And finally, some sage words from our future president https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...src=twsrc%5Etfw Edited December 27, 2016 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 12:52 PM) Yup. Basically that really happened. So yeah, probably good reason not to push these things. Yup. And then there was Able Archer (also in 1983), where a NATO exercise caused the Soviets to go on highest alert level with the finger on the button because they thought a first strike might be coming. And a few whoops-we-crashed-a-plane-with-a-nuke-on-it moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-blast...ory?id=44431926 Trump sniping at Obama now...that peaceful transition lasted almost two months, longer than most would have predicted. It's now coming into full conflict with the Obama administration's rearguard actions to protect his legacy. Hopefully the foreign policy issues don't blow up into a war while we're waiting for actual Trump directives to be put in place after the 20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) Yes, refuse to not do YOUR JOB and expect to be PAID as if you DID. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Guess you hate all unions then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (brett05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) Yes, refuse to not do YOUR JOB and expect to be PAID as if you DID. Makes sense. I'm sure you said the same thing about pharmacists who refused to sell birth control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (brett05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 10:42 AM) Yes, refuse to not do YOUR JOB and expect to be PAID as if you DID. Makes sense. I'd guess that they're paid hourly or by performance rather than salaried, so that wouldn't be asking for compensation for work not performed. They just don't want to perform for Cheeto Benito. Edited December 29, 2016 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (brett05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 10:42 AM) Yes, refuse to not do YOUR JOB and expect to be PAID as if you DID. Makes sense. Comparing a job requirement to rape is pretty impressive there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 12:04 PM) Comparing a job requirement to rape is pretty impressive there. President-Elect "Grab 'em by the p****" Trump would be proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) I'm sure you said the same thing about pharmacists who refused to sell birth control. Or bakeries that refused to make cakes for gay people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) Or bakeries that refused to make cakes for gay people. Or Republicans in Congress not holding a hearing for Garland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Or Donald Trump not going to intelligence briefings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 11:32 AM) Guess you hate all unions then. Yes, I am against many of the unions as it stands today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 11:36 AM) I'm sure you said the same thing about pharmacists who refused to sell birth control. It's their job...they are not owners, they are workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) Or bakeries that refused to make cakes for gay people. Bakers, nope, owners, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 12:04 PM) Comparing a job requirement to rape is pretty impressive there. except that wasn't done so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 11:38 AM) I'd guess that they're paid hourly or by performance rather than salaried, so that wouldn't be asking for compensation for work not performed. They just don't want to perform for Cheeto Benito. and by refusing work, they might not get offered future work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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