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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 10:42 AM)
Why are we going to war with China? Seems like a bad idea in my opinion.

 

Didn't you hear? They hacked too

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 10:42 AM)
Why are we going to war with China? Seems like a bad idea in my opinion.

 

We're not. The economies of the world won't allow for it without some country taking a massive economic hit. Never say never, but it's hard to believe having a moron spout dumb things over social media would really escalate anything to that degree.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 15, 2017 -> 08:57 PM)
Obama let Republicans belittle him for eight years.

In essence he was the Jackie Robinson of presidents.

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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 10:45 AM)
We're not. The economies of the world won't allow for it without some country taking a massive economic hit. Never say never, but it's hard to believe having a moron spout dumb things over social media would really escalate anything to that degree.

 

War is extremely doubtful. NATO's purpose is to create a larger sphere of influence for the US without us having to invade. This seems completely lost on Trump.

 

What Trump's idiocy will likely due is cause increased prices with decreased quality for consumers. This is the cost of trying to kill free trade. Not sure what happened to Republican's, but free trade used to be something they were proud of. Same with Capitalism.

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QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 10:56 AM)
In essence he was the Jackie Robinson of presidents.

 

Bill Clinton was treated the same way by his opponents. As was Bush. As is every President.

 

And frankly, Obama has been given serious passes for major f*** ups too, like the VA scandal (still ongoing!), Fast and Furious, Libya, the continuation of Gitmo and the drone program, etc. etc. Yeah, he had to deal with the birther nosense, and that's fair, but I think that's about the only race/religion specific crap he had to deal with.

 

 

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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 12:45 PM)
We're not. The economies of the world won't allow for it without some country taking a massive economic hit. Never say never, but it's hard to believe having a moron spout dumb things over social media would really escalate anything to that degree.

I think the Chinese situation will be much easier to deal with than the European one. China will make some noise in the South China Sea soon, Trump will respond, but then North Korea will get a slight bit of prodding to do something to annoy the US and Trump won't be able to resist a d*ck measuring contest with an actual dictator. He'll either get distracted or he'll wind up right back where we are now - asking China to help deal with the North Korean mess since we have no leverage over them otherwise.

 

There's a reason why the European project exists.

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Prior to today, crooked Trump's only MLK tweet (he has over 34K tweets) was when he tweeted in 2013:

 

"My question is did MLK Jr. use the 'N' word? No, only Paula Dean used it!"

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 11:00 AM)
I think the Chinese situation will be much easier to deal with than the European one. China will make some noise in the South China Sea soon, Trump will respond, but then North Korea will get a slight bit of prodding to do something to annoy the US and Trump won't be able to resist a d*ck measuring contest with an actual dictator. He'll either get distracted or he'll wind up right back where we are now - asking China to help deal with the North Korean mess since we have no leverage over them otherwise.

 

There's a reason why the European project exists.

 

Show it

 

No, you show it

 

You first

 

No you first

 

.....your hands are pretty small

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*ziiiiiiiiiiiiip*

 

 

*laughter* he really did it! I told you if you said that he would show you!

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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 10:59 AM)
Bill Clinton was treated the same way by his opponents. As was Bush. As is every President.

 

And frankly, Obama has been given serious passes for major f*** ups too, like the VA scandal (still ongoing!), Fast and Furious, Libya, the continuation of Gitmo and the drone program, etc. etc. Yeah, he had to deal with the birther nosense, and that's fair, but I think that's about the only race/religion specific crap he had to deal with.

 

Don't forget Solyndra and the green energy/clean tech revolution not exactly taking off as planned in the US.

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Well, he already took MLK Day off and skipped doing a community service/volunteer project.

 

Does meeting with a member of MLK's family make up for? NAH. The damage has already been inflicted. Now we're up to around 24 representatives refusing to go to the inauguration for various reasons.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 03:03 PM)
Don't forget Solyndra and the green energy/clean tech revolution not exactly taking off as planned in the US.

Wait what? Those examples don't make sense, and even if they did, wouldn't be in the same universe as what Jenks mentioned.

 

Renewables had astronomical growth under Obama. And Solyndra is just a terrible Republican talking point. Republicans used Solyndra to argue the loan program was terrible...but 98% of the loans administered through that program were repaid. Solyndra was one of the few failures. It'd be like arguing that Reagan did terribly in the '84 election because he lost Minnesota.

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QUOTE (farmteam @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 10:51 PM)
Wait what? Those examples don't make sense, and even if they did, wouldn't be in the same universe as what Jenks mentioned.

 

Renewables had astronomical growth under Obama. And Solyndra is just a terrible Republican talking point. Republicans used Solyndra to argue the loan program was terrible...but 98% of the loans administered through that program were repaid. Solyndra was one of the few failures. It'd be like arguing that Reagan did terribly in the '84 election because he lost Minnesota.

 

I was just joking.

 

Republicans ALWAYS bring up Solyndra, school choice/labor unions, e-mails, Benghazi, birth certificates....the same talking points.

 

Now, all things considered, we're not really close to going electric with automobiles in mass production, but that's largely attributable to much cheaper gasoline prices, and partially related to the fracking argument, where the US is now a net exporter of energy.

 

It's not like Obama could force everyone to put up solar panels, anyway...like in the late 70's when Carter was president. And the budgetary resources (and customer demand) for high speed rail and magnetic levitation trains just isn't there. At least not YET.

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Trump national security spokeswoman Monica Crowley to forgo post amid plagiarism charges

 

Monica Crowley, recently appointed by President-elect Donald Trump to a key national security communications job, said Monday that she would relinquish the post amid multiple allegations of plagiarism.

 

Crowley, who has been named senior director of strategic communications at the National Security Council, said in a statement that “after much reflection,” she had decided to remain in New York and “will not be taking a position in the incoming administration.”

 

Crowley was found to have heavily plagiarized her PhD dissertation.

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Some people are really following President p****-graber's lead

 

(autoplay video at the link, why on earth does anyone still do that?)

Politician Arrested for Pinching Woman’s Genitals ‘Said He No Longer Had to Be Politically Correct’

 

von Keyserling “reached in from behind to place his hand between her legs and pinch her in the groin area,” according to the police arrest warrant. She threatened to hit him if he tried to pinch her again, and he replied, “It would be your word against mine and nobody will believe you,” according to the warrant.

 

Police say that the incident was caught on security camera and that the footage is consistent with the events the woman described.

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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 10:59 AM)
Bill Clinton was treated the same way by his opponents. As was Bush. As is every President.

 

And frankly, Obama has been given serious passes for major f*** ups too, like the VA scandal (still ongoing!), Fast and Furious, Libya, the continuation of Gitmo and the drone program, etc. etc. Yeah, he had to deal with the birther nosense, and that's fair, but I think that's about the only race/religion specific crap he had to deal with.

:o

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getting money out of politics, one six-figures-a-plate dinner at a time!

Deep-pocketed donors face a decision on Wednesday night: whether to dine with the Vice President-elect at the National Portrait Gallery, or enjoy an “intimate policy discussion” with incoming Cabinet appointees at an exclusive dinner at the Library of Congress.

 

The closed-door events, just two of many being held during inauguration week, were double-scheduled by planners. “It’s all messed up, they have the cabinet dinner and the V.P. dinner on the same night at the same time,” said a top donor of President-elect Donald Trump, who’s torn over which to attend.

 

The cost of admission for the Cabinet dinner is included in a package for either $100,000 or $250,000 to the presidential inaugural committee, while dinner with Vice President-elect Mike Pence is open to donors and corporate underwriters at the $500,000 and $1 million-level as part of multi-day itineraries, with the level of access determined by the amount of cash given, according to inauguration brochures obtained by POLITICO.

 

The invite states that only “select” Cabinet will attend, prompting concerns that only a few lower-profile nominees would be on hand. If that happens, “people will be pissed,” the Trump donor said.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 08:17 PM)
Franken did a good job of exposing her incompetence.

 

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/8215...src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

There's a 0% chance she's the nominee if she wasn't a huge Republican donor.

 

Read Elizabeth Warren's full 16 page dressing down of DeVos...

 

 

https://www.warren.senate.gov/files/documen...eVos_Letter.pdf

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Here's something else for Greg to consider:

 

The President-elect, however, considers NATO "obsolete" largely because he believes it is not doing enough to deal with terrorism, despite the fact that the only time that NATO's Article 5 mutual defense provision has ever been invoked was after a terrorist attack — on September 11, 2001.

 

Since then, thousands of NATO troops have served in Afghanistan, fighting to stop the war-ravaged country from again becoming a haven for extremist groups like al Qaeda.

 

"We were attacked on 9/11, and not any of these countries and they sent their young men and women to serve in Afghanistan, and over 1,000 were killed in Afghanistan," Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain said on CNN's "New Day" on Tuesday. "Not because they were attacked but because we were attacked."

 

Former Sen. and Middle East peace negotiator George Mitchell, meanwhile, argued that Trump risked subverting one of America's great achievements: the building of a new transatlantic order from the rubble of two world wars in which 68 million people died.

 

"I believe historians will judge that to be one of America's finest hours," said Mitchell on CNN Tuesday.

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/politics/don...licy/index.html

Trump's New World DISorder

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