Baron Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 QUOTE (GermanSoxFan @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 04:48 PM) Albies as the headliner for Q would make me livid. IMO his absolute ceiling is Alcides Escobar.. There is not much upside in his bat and we all know the Sox need those kind of bats badly. Seriously that's your ceiling for Albies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 04:53 PM) Seriously that's your ceiling for Albies? With a scouting grade of "20" power, it's not easy to put a ceiling on Albies His ceiling would be Altuve, with far less power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 11:53 PM) Seriously that's your ceiling for Albies? He has no power. Without power his now decent walk rate will go down a lot in the majors. Pretty good fielder and good runner. I just don't see much upside there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (GermanSoxFan @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 04:58 PM) He has no power. Without power his now decent walk rate will go down a lot in the majors. Pretty good fielder and good runner. I just don't see much upside there. His upside (best case) would be that of an above average fielding SS or 2B leadoff type hitter that hits .300 and steals bases That is a valuable player, and he was young for the AAA level by two years, but his struggles in AAA would concern me a little bit He was awesome in AA, but a .650 ops in AAA is reason to think Would I love him in the Sox organization? Absolutely. But, he needs to prove he can handle AAA pitching this season If he becomes the next Dustin Pedroia, I will eat my words Edited December 16, 2016 by steveno89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 04:50 PM) I think one day we are all going to login and there will be a report that Q has been traded. Seems like whomever else the Sox are talking to have quiet lips and with everyone staying radio silent, we all might be surprised at who acquires him or how quick it goes down. Might be true, hoping there's a sudden frantic bidding when some team finally provides that final wanted piece and we try to get it countered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 12:04 AM) His upside (best case) would be that of an above average fielding SS or 2B leadoff type hitter that hits .300 and steals bases That is a valuable player, and he was young for the AAA level by two years, but his struggles in AAA would concern me a little bit He was awesome in AA, but a .650 ops in AAA is reason to think Would I love him in the Sox organization? Absolutely. But, he needs to prove he can handle AAA pitching this season I'm totally iwth you. I mean Alcides Escobar had some good years. Or I'll throw out Elvis Andrus as another ceiling comp. A very valuable player, but not what you're looking for in a Quintana trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 05:07 PM) Might be true, hoping there's a sudden frantic bidding when some team finally provides that final wanted piece and we try to get it countered. Pittsburgh could be a sleeper team, or the Yankees Mets could gut their system with a: Rosario, Smith, Dunn and Nimmo package? Toronto could totally gut their system? Rockies? Astros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 04:50 PM) I think one day we are all going to login and there will be a report that Q has been traded. Seems like whomever else the Sox are talking to have quiet lips and with everyone staying radio silent, we all might be surprised at who acquires him or how quick it goes down. This is why I'm still holding out hope that the Rockies are involved. They have been very quiet as an organization this offseason, which tracks with the relatively tight lipped status of Q negotiations right now. ETA: Not quiet in terms of making moves, but quiet on the rumor mill prior to those moves going down. Edited December 16, 2016 by illinilaw08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 06:14 PM) Pittsburgh could be a sleeper team, or the Yankees Mets could gut their system with a: Rosario, Smith, Dunn and Nimmo package? Toronto could totally gut their system? Rockies? Astros? Do the Mets really need pitching? Can't see them gutting their system for a #3 (possibly 4 depending on health of Harvey) starter. And Q certainly isn't expensive, but there are a lot of reports saying the Mets already have to shed salary before the season as is. Toronto doesn't have a prospect inside the top 70 so I would go ahead and rule them out. The market is seriously thin on Q as unbelievable as it is. It only takes 1 other team to make a serious offer to pressure the Astros though. Rockies, Braves, Cardinals, Rangers, Yankees...I can't see many other logical fits, hopefully someone steps up with a real offer soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) But those guys like deGrom and Syndegaard are pure power pitchers and typically have the shortest shelf life. It's unlikely with those four and Matz (that a trade goes down), but the reason for not making the deal shouldn't be where Q would arbitrarily rank in their starting rotation. Edited December 17, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I would prefer we keep Quintana and build our staff around him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 05:30 PM) I would prefer we keep Quintana and build our staff around him No! You're kidding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 We seriously need a new tweet to spice up these rumors. I cant take it anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 09:04 AM) We seriously need a new tweet to spice up these rumors. I cant take it anymore This x100000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Low-key Quintana should be traded on a Saturday, where it would be ignored by the media. It would be fitting if it happened today. The Astros and White Sox need each other, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 09:12 AM) This x100000 Sox fans get impatient after a week without another franchise altering move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 If nothing gets moving today then I have a really strong feeling that nothing happens until January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 QUOTE (Moncada @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 10:05 AM) If nothing gets moving today then I have a really strong feeling that nothing happens until January Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 QUOTE (Moncada @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 10:05 AM) If nothing gets moving today then I have a really strong feeling that nothing happens until January If today was December 23rd I could maybe see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 10:07 AM) Why? Tomorrow is Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 10:44 AM) Tomorrow is Christmas. Er, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 11:00 AM) Er, what? Confused time traveler from Xmas future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Happy Christmas Eve to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Tomorrow is st Patrick's day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Lol, we really need some new rumors to emerge or at least some fresh ideas to speculate with. Anyone think the Blue Jays could get involved for Q? Toronto has some interesting position player prospects. Would be nice to see a power bat like Rowdy Tellez in the Sox farm system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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