Bob Sacamano Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) You hailed? I've been higher on Coats than most, guilty. I think he can make a fine MLB 4th OF. Maybe even a little more, getting platoon or short-term starting time on a non-first-tier or rebuilding team if the opportunity arose. That's my read anyway. He's an odd case in that he doesn't have a single plus tool, except maybe his arm. But he's also no lower than 45 on any tool. Instead of the typical, White Sox "toolsy outfielder" types with 1-3 big tools and 1-2 huge holes in their game, Coats is the opposite. I think it plays, but we'll see. He's got similarities to a RHH Ross Gload type - can hit for average, some power but not at a plus level, doesn't walk much (or enough) but makes regular hard contact with an aggressive approach, line drive swing, has a little speed but nothing special. Gload had a stronger hit tool to be sure, but Coats plays at least average to above average corner OF D, as opposed to Gload being a 1B who can play OF in a pinch. A Gload-like career is Coats' ceiling, but as an OF instead of 1B/DH/PH/occasional OF. Platoon him with Melky or Tilson (Liriano in CF when Coats plays) with Avi in RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockfordJim Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) You hailed? I've been higher on Coats than most, guilty. I think he can make a fine MLB 4th OF. Maybe even a little more, getting platoon or short-term starting time on a non-first-tier or rebuilding team if the opportunity arose. That's my read anyway. He's an odd case in that he doesn't have a single plus tool, except maybe his arm. But he's also no lower than 45 on any tool. Instead of the typical, White Sox "toolsy outfielder" types with 1-3 big tools and 1-2 huge holes in their game, Coats is the opposite. I think it plays, but we'll see. He's got similarities to a RHH Ross Gload type - can hit for average, some power but not at a plus level, doesn't walk much (or enough) but makes regular hard contact with an aggressive approach, line drive swing, has a little speed but nothing special. Gload had a stronger hit tool to be sure, but Coats plays at least average to above average corner OF D, as opposed to Gload being a 1B who can play OF in a pinch. A Gload-like career is Coats' ceiling, but as an OF instead of 1B/DH/PH/occasional OF. No offense, and I'm sure he's a fine young man, but why would we even waste oxygen discussing somebody who is hopefully a Ross Gload? I mean, if I had a son who was a major leaguer like that, I'd be really proud, but frankly I doubt if I'd spend any time touting him on a message board rather than talking about the players who will actually count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (RockfordJim @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 04:01 PM) No offense, and I'm sure he's a fine young man, but why would we even waste oxygen discussing somebody who is hopefully a Ross Gload? I mean, if I had a son who was a major leaguer like that, I'd be really proud, but frankly I doubt if I'd spend any time touting him on a message board rather than talking about the players who will actually count. THATS why you havent posted but 7 posts in 6 years. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (RockfordJim @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 04:01 PM) No offense, and I'm sure he's a fine young man, but why would we even waste oxygen discussing somebody who is hopefully a Ross Gload? I mean, if I had a son who was a major leaguer like that, I'd be really proud, but frankly I doubt if I'd spend any time touting him on a message board rather than talking about the players who will actually count. Because cheap, quality backups are nice to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) Because chdap, quality backups are nice to have. How dare you refer to someone as a "chdap"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (RockfordJim @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 04:01 PM) No offense, and I'm sure he's a fine young man, but why would we even waste oxygen discussing somebody who is hopefully a Ross Gload? I mean, if I had a son who was a major leaguer like that, I'd be really proud, but frankly I doubt if I'd spend any time touting him on a message board rather than talking about the players who will actually count. um... someone asked me. Literally, called me out by name, because he knew my view of him was a little different than that of others (ask me about Spencer Adams and I'll go the opposite direction and be a negative contrarian). So I spent 20 seconds typing a response. On a discussion forum. About a player who is likely to be part of the 2017 team. If you only want to discuss the Moncadas of the world, that's fine. They deserve more attention, and they get it. But role players and bench guys are also part of the picture, because no one has a 25-man team of Moncadas. About 40 players, give or take, will "count" in any given year for any given club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 04:49 PM) um... someone asked me. Literally, called me out by name, because he knew my view of him was a little different than that of others (ask me about Spencer Adams and I'll go the opposite direction and be a negative contrarian). So I spent 20 seconds typing a response. On a discussion forum. About a player who is likely to be part of the 2017 team. If you only want to discuss the Moncadas of the world, that's fine. They deserve more attention, and they get it. But role players and bench guys are also part of the picture, because no one has a 25-man team of Moncadas. About 40 players, give or take, will "count" in any given year for any given club. And the reason I brought you in is because you've got some of the best insight into the org and predicted Coats not being a write off years ago. If you think he'll be useful, then I agree till proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I thought I was the only one here who likes Coats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 07:37 PM) I thought I was the only one here who likes Coats. There are dozens of us! Dozens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 07:39 PM) There are dozens of us! Dozens! Count me in.Ben Coates was a hell of a tight end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I like Coats. Especially when it's cold outside and I want to be extra toasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Ooops. Thought this was Filibuster and we were discussing Sen. Dan Coats. Back to our regularly scheduled programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I bought a nice coat with a faux fur hood. It's pretty Eurotrashy and I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 07:44 PM) Count me in.Ben Coates was a hell of a tight end Sammie Coates is a good young WR when healthy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) Okay, just to be a contrarian, where can we start a Rymer Liriano Fan Club? Coats is just getting way too much attention, haha. The stated goal...to create a White Sox line-up with totally Latin American players. We've got Avi and Liriano for the OF (Basabe the most promising current prospect), Yoan Moncada, Carlos Sanchez and Jose Abreu for the infield, and Omar Narvaez at catcher. P.S. PLEASE RE-SIGN ALEX RIOS!!! Or Armando Rios. Just to annoy Greg. Edited December 30, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 You mean there isn't already a Rymer Liriano Fan Club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I'd also like to bring back Dayan Viciedo, since we already gave Gordon Beckham that accolade/honor. So it's the Rymer Liriano/Dayan Viciedo Sox Reunification Tour. If all else fails, we can bring in Pedro Alvarez as part of a platoon DH, assuming we don't splurge on Jose Bautista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I apologize for this in advance, but I hear Rymer is poetry in motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Let's get back to Quintana discussion, or this thread will start anew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 The quiet is a bit disconcerting, especially with how close things seemed and how quickly talks picked up Tuesday. Starting to get a little nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 09:47 PM) The quiet is a bit disconcerting, especially with how close things seemed and how quickly talks picked up Tuesday. Starting to get a little nervous. There hasn't even been a real FA signing. It appears these people aren't above the xmas to ny vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 09:47 PM) The quiet is a bit disconcerting, especially with how close things seemed and how quickly talks picked up Tuesday. Starting to get a little nervous. To be fair, no one actually confirmed anything was close. It just seems that way because that's all we've really had leaked as far discussion goes. I'm sure talks are still flowing with multiple teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 There hasn't even been a real FA signing. It appears these people aren't above the xmas to ny vacation. This is the flip side. Nothing is really happening anywhere, even Rosenthal is on vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Ive given up hope that anything will happen soon. Probably after the WBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Man, the hot stove is a freezer right now. Maybe things pick up next week after the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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