BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:06 PM) Q is going for hitters now. Guarantee Thinking the same thing. Both the Rockies and Astros have been adding veteran hitters this winter and need pitching so I'm thinking Q will be gone soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 7s7 seconds ago So the #WhiteSox land the top position prospect and pitching prospect in a matter of 24 hours, and they haven't even traded Quintana yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Wow. Selling high on Eaton. WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Wow...Hahn is moving fast. Eaton and Sale gone...two people in Laroche gate moved (also two of our three players with most leverage). Would have figured Nats would have been in on Robertson, but this looks like a very nice deal. Figured we'd target more pitching. With Eaton moved, I have to think Q is on the move as well. I would have liked Robles in this deal, but can't take major issue with who we are getting back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Bad bad trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) It doesn't help solve the problem we have now, at all. Our position players have been awful. As of now, we have set ourselves up to have the exact same problem we have now, but only if all goes right. If it doesn't, we won't have offensive or pitching. We have plenty of trade chips left to get position players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 A little bumemd we couldn't get Robles, or at least a few bats at the backend of hte deal like Kieboom and Severino, but i am cool with it. Lopez and Giolito both have TOR potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) We had good pitching. That wasn't the problem. There's still plenty of time and trade chips and drafts to get more hitters. Don't fret yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) We had good pitching. That wasn't the problem. Maybe they are flipping one or more of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Two of the top 10 RHP prospects in baseball isn't bad. Not sure what Dunning is going to be, back end guy or in the pen, but good pick up. It appears the strategy is to focus on guys that are fairly developed and take a lot of the projection out of the hands of the scouting department. It probably cost a bit in terms of quantity, but a lot less risk in a deal like this than one that includes guys a long ways from their ceilings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) How are you guys disappointed that we got the #4 and #38 prospects for Adam Eaton? We sold about as high as possible on him. + But 6 war! 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) We have plenty of trade chips left to get position players. Q is the only one of any value. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwill Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 This is as solid of a haul as the White Sox were going to get. Yes, he was a 6 WAR player but he is tapped out on potential. Defensive metrics can very strongly year to year as well. We got two top 30 prospects. I am so pleased with the start of this offseason. You can make the case that with these two trades the White Sox have the best system in baseball. I would say we could only half done with the sell off. I get that these are only prospect but I have always been of the fandom that its always easier to watch a young team fail then an old team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) Bad bad trade Why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) Two of the top 10 RHP prospects in baseball isn't bad. Not sure what Dunning is going to be, back end guy or in the pen, but good pick up. It appears the strategy is to focus on guys that are fairly developed and take a lot of the projection out of the hands of the scouting department. It probably cost a bit in terms of quantity, but a lot less risk in a deal like this than one that includes guys a long ways from their ceilings. Nationals were using Dunning as a starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) Pitchers. Great. f*** you, Hahn. Pitching is the most volatile and in-demand need in the game, whether starters or relievers. Andcwe have the minor league development staff along with Cooper that theoretically excel in that area. One only needs to go back through 1998-2001 BA prospect lists to see how many busted from our #1 system in baseball. Once Sale was gone, it was natural for Eaton to go, and we already knew their system intimately. We can turn Eaton (who was Santiago...a low low draft pick) and a waiver claim in Q into one of the Top 3-5 farm systems in baseball. Logical enough. Just need to hit on at least 60% of the Top Ten names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) Q is the only one of any value. That's it. Robertson, Jones, and Frazier can bring something back too. Not anything top 50, but something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) Pitchers. Great. f*** you, Hahn. Pitching is the most volatile and in-demand need in the game, whether starters or relievers. Andcwe have the minor league development staff along with Cooper that theoretically excel in that area. One only needs to go back through 1998-2001 BA prospect lists to see how many busted from our #1 system in baseball. Once Sale was gone, it was natural for Eaton to go, and we already knew their system intimately. We can turn Eaton (who was Santiago...a low low draft pick) and a waiver claim in Q into one of the Top 3-5 farm systems in baseball. Logical enough. Just need to hit on at least 60% of the Top Ten names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'm actually very happy with this trade for real. Hell of a start. Now we need to turn Q dawg into three four high end postion players. So stoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) Pitching is the most volatile and in-demand need in the game, whether starters or relievers. Andcwe have the minor league development staff along with Cooper that theoretically excel in that area. One only needs to go back through 1998-2001 BA prospect lists to see how many busted from our #1 system in baseball. Once Sale was gone, it was natural for Eaton to go, and we already knew their system intimately. We can turn Eaton (who was Santiago...a low low draft pick) and a waiver claim in Q into one of the Top 3-5 farm systems in baseball. Logical enough. Just need to hit on at least 60% of the Top Ten names. It's crazy how much value we got back from Hector Santiago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Giolito and Lopez is awesome. I don't know squat about DUnning, but Gio is elite and Lopez, while probably not quite as his level, is a damn good prospect. If Dunning is ANYTHING worth mentioning I love this trade. I am actually LESS excited about the other trade w/ Sale because I am not over the moon about player 3 and 4 in that deal, though 1 and 2 could be special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Eaton is not a 6 WAR true talent player. He's about 3-4, still a great player but I can pretty much guarantee last year was his career year defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 When it's only pitchers coming back, it really runs the risk to blow up in their faces, but come on, this is exciting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) Maybe they are flipping one or more of them? That's my thought too, it could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:12 PM) Robertson, Jones, and Frazier can bring something back too. Not anything top 50, but something. Jones, I agree with. Robertson and Frazier are not bringing back top end talent. Both guys have zero surplus value. Hell Dan Jennings might be the next most valuable trade piece we have after Q and Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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