BFirebird Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I haven't been active much on the boards lately but I have to say these trades are getting me excited again. I feel like I am playing MLB The Show making these trades. Value-wise based on what the gave up you have to say the got more for Eaton, but only because it would be impossible to get enough value for Sale. Keep it going RH! I am so glad they finally picked a lane and going with it. Lets go you White Sox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:40 PM) That WAR is stupid because Jason Heyward was bad. Well, they have a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMule2545 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) If you haven't seen these highlights of Lopez, wow wow wow. His stuff is insane Stuff is insane, delivery super sketchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The Law take was that the nats foolishly messed with Giolito's mechanics; Lopez is a high end reliever; and Dunning has light mileage on his arm, has 3 pitches, and could start in the chicago by September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:06 PM) The Law take was that the nats foolishly messed with Giolito's mechanics; Lopez is a high end reliever; and Dunning has light mileage on his arm, has 3 pitches, and could start in the chicago by September. Lopez has started at every level, why convert him now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Absolute love the trade. High ceiling pitchers that our system lacked. I think we will see the 2015 Giolito and Cooper will have him go back to his old mechanics and add a cutter to his arsenal. I love Dunning Throws three plus pitches. Needs at least 2 years of development, but has a chance to be a #3 SP. My thought on Lopez is a reliever, but a dam good one. I think Lopez tiny stature and lack of breaking ball will put him in the bullpen. With a great chance to being high leverage RP in the late innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 37s38 seconds ago #Pirates believed Tues nite were on brink of dealing McCutchen to #Nationals for Giolito and Dunning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:08 PM) Lopez has started at every level, why convert him now? They won't. I like Law, but I'll trust the White Sox and their pitching acumen over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Pitchers pegged as dope bullpen pitchers not the disappointment it once was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:11 PM) Pitchers pegged as dope bullpen pitchers not the disappointment it once was. Lopez had some great starts in the majors last year. Why would he be a reliever? That's his floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:11 PM) Pitchers pegged as dope bullpen pitchers not the disappointment it once was. I get that, but a starter is still more valuable every time, and getting 2 TOR starters out of that deal would really kickstart things in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:09 PM) Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 37s38 seconds ago #Pirates believed Tues nite were on brink of dealing McCutchen to #Nationals for Giolito and Dunning Why would PIT say no to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:06 PM) The Law take was that the nats foolishly messed with Giolito's mechanics; Lopez is a high end reliever; and Dunning has light mileage on his arm, has 3 pitches, and could start in the chicago by September. If Giolito's mechanics are what people think is the issue, no better place than the Sox. They'll give Lopez every shot to start. QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:09 PM) Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 37s38 seconds ago #Pirates believed Tues nite were on brink of dealing McCutchen to #Nationals for Giolito and Dunning That would have been a dumber move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:19 PM) Why would PIT say no to that? It's not that they said no, it's that the Nats got Eaton instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:06 PM) The Law take was that the nats foolishly messed with Giolito's mechanics; Lopez is a high end reliever; and Dunning has light mileage on his arm, has 3 pitches, and could start in the chicago by September. Yeah there are a few articles out there about his mechanics last year. Link Obviously we don't know right now, but it seems like he's coming into a good situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I am absolutely amazed with the Eaton return. We all knew here how valuable Eaton is a to a team (we've had the 6 WAR thing drilled into our heads now). Therefore, I was expecting a good return and this is the perfect deal to be made. I got to be honest, I'm not sure what the Nationals were doing with this trade, but this is the type of trade that had to be made if someone wanted Eaton. I really thought we'd be stuck with Eaton for the year, but this is great. Off to an amazing start! I am really excited about the W'sox. They needed to make these moves to keep me as a 'fan' of the organization, and they did. Now keep it going and I will follow this organization for a few years for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) I get that, but a starter is still more valuable every time, and getting 2 TOR starters out of that deal would really kickstart things in the right direction. Not advocating moving him, just saying that's isn't the threat it once was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 So Lopez and Giolito are already ready for the big leagues as well as Moncada. So are we contenders already? It's not a conventional rebuild if all 3 guys are in the majors next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMule2545 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 http://www.minorleagueball.com/2016/12/7/1...ez-dane-dunning John Sickels' take on the Eaton deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) So Lopez and Giolito are already ready for the big leagues as well as Moncada. So are we contenders already? It's not a conventional rebuild if all 3 guys are in the majors next season. No one we acquired is likely to be on the Opening Day roster unless they have a lights out spring. The plan is for all 7 of them to be in the minors. Gio, Lopez, Moncada could all be called up by early summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:27 PM) http://www.minorleagueball.com/2016/12/7/1...ez-dane-dunning John Sickels' take on the Eaton deal A-,B+,B is a great freaking trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:09 PM) Absolute love the trade. High ceiling pitchers that our system lacked. I think we will see the 2015 Giolito and Cooper will have him go back to his old mechanics and add a cutter to his arsenal. I love Dunning Throws three plus pitches. Needs at least 2 years of development, but has a chance to be a #3 SP. My thought on Lopez is a reliever, but a dam good one. I think Lopez tiny stature and lack of breaking ball will put him in the bullpen. With a great chance to being high leverage RP in the late innings. Lopez has an outstanding curve and glimpses of a plus-change. He'll definitely be a starter, imo. He's 6' 185...not talking about a tiny guy here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I actually like this deal more than the Sale trade. Very happy we got Lopez. Big fan of his. Giolito was an obvious get for Eaton but didn't think we'd get BOTH of them. Dunning is just icing on the cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:40 PM) I actually like this deal more than the Sale trade. Very happy we got Lopez. Big fan of his. Giolito was an obvious get for Eaton but didn't think we'd get BOTH of them. Dunning is just icing on the cake. I honestly think it's easier to win an Eaton trade than Sale. So hard precedence wise. Easier to close the gap between your player and the elite return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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