Reddy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 2, 2017 -> 08:21 PM) Koch Brothers of the left. No, that part I understand. Do Republicans really not know who and what the Koch brothers support? (honestly asking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 2, 2017 -> 07:21 PM) Koch Brothers of the left. That is exactly what I was thinking. I swear both of them use the same playbook. Just the names change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 2, 2017 -> 07:25 PM) That is exactly what I was thinking. I swear both of them use the same playbook. Just the names change. And about as influential on a cellular lever to the average voter here. Soros to the left of me, Koch bros to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 2, 2017 -> 08:25 PM) That is exactly what I was thinking. I swear both of them use the same playbook. Just the names change. I've literally never read or heard about Soros funneling money into campaigns in the way the Kochs do, or lobbying to the extent they do. The Kochs literally run NYC, where I live, and I work events that they attend quite often. You'd think if Soros had the same pull I'd have had SOME sort of contact or exposure to him over the years. Are they really identical and I'm missing it because of my bubble, or is there actually a difference? Edited April 3, 2017 by Reddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 2, 2017 -> 08:29 PM) And about as influential on a cellular lever to the average voter here. they're incredibly influential without you realizing it. That's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 2, 2017 -> 07:34 PM) they're incredibly influential without you realizing it. That's the point. Exactly. But they are one trickle in the flood. And let's not forget about foreign influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 2, 2017 -> 08:37 PM) Exactly. But they are one trickle in the flood. And let's not forget about foreign influences. RE: The Kochs Their network of groups pledging to spend $889 million from 2009–2016 and its infrastructure has been said by Politico to rival "that of the Republican National Committee."[5] A trickle, you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) As soon as we hear that Soros is similarly threatening Manchin, Heitkamp and Donnelly over the Gorsuch nomination (like Koch did to support no votes from the HFC on the AHCA)...the majority of Soros spending is in Europe. The Koch Brothers are worth about $85-90 billion combined. Soros, $25 billion. http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/op...-koch-brothers/ Lobbying expenditures, about $52 million (Koch) vs. $12 million for Soros through 2010...and Koch Industries political spending dwarfed that in 2012-14-16. Soros' attention has been increasingly focused on global issues, like his Open Society programs. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/crisis-many-...-131300919.html Matt Drudge claims Congress is sabotaging Trump Edited April 3, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 2, 2017 -> 09:42 PM) As soon as we hear that Soros is similarly threatening Manchin, Heitkamp and Donnelly over the Gorsuch nomination (like Koch did to support no votes from the HFC on the AHCA)...the majority of Soros spending is in Europe. The Koch Brothers are worth about $85-90 billion combined. Soros, $25 billion. http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/op...-koch-brothers/ Lobbying expenditures, about $52 million (Koch) vs. $12 million for Soros through 2010...and Koch Industries political spending dwarfed that in 2012-14-16. Soros' attention has been increasingly focused on global issues, like his Open Society programs. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/crisis-many-...-131300919.html Matt Drudge claims Congress is sabotaging Trump Once again, the facts confirm my bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 http://thehill.com/policy/national-securit...asking-of-trump Ill have to say, I agree with Rand Paul. Drip, drip, drip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) At some point, Trump needs a real win. He's arguably had just two good moments, the Gorsuch nomination and the joint speech to Congress. Mattis and McMaster were solid picks, but he still hasn't done anything to improve the lives of the white American middle class who jumped ship (1/4 former Obama voters in this demographic) in the Midwest to elect him. Susan Rice allegations debunked http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/04...-sciutto-ac.cnn Edited April 4, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Further proof that Trump doesn't give a s*** about the little guy. Jeff NesbitVerified account @jeffnesbit 3m3 minutes ago The White House is looking at a carbon tax. http://wapo.st/2oVMYV8?tid=ss_tw … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 11:45 AM) Further proof that Trump doesn't give a s*** about the little guy. Jeff NesbitVerified account @jeffnesbit 3m3 minutes ago The White House is looking at a carbon tax. http://wapo.st/2oVMYV8?tid=ss_tw … Pushing a VAT, too. Not exactly orthodox GOP positions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 3, 2017 -> 10:42 PM) Susan Rice allegations debunked http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/04...-sciutto-ac.cnn "Her friends said she didn't do it". Good enough for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 12:30 PM) Pushing a VAT, too. Not exactly orthodox GOP positions here. Such garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) "Her friends said she didn't do it". Good enough for me! Okay, might want to consider the source who "broke" this story before going around impugning other sources. I'll give you two guesses as to which of his own bodily fluids he consumes because he believes it gives him powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) Okay, might want to consider the source who "broke" this story before going around impugning other sources. I'll give you two guesses as to which of his own bodily fluids he consumes because he believes it gives him powers. I think it is cute that you think this somehow relates to their relevancy as a source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 03:27 PM) [/b] I think it is cute that you think this somehow relates to their relevancy as a source. It's a sign of having a pretty f***ed up mind/worldview. He's also a big #pizzagate idiot. These are sub-WND level "sources." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 03:29 PM) It's a sign of having a pretty f***ed up mind/worldview. He's also a big #pizzagate idiot. These are sub-WND level "sources." This sounds like a right winger talking about gays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I mean, do you really want to equate a pizzagate guy who eats his own semen to gain the Gorilla Mind to being gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 04:34 PM) I mean, do you really want to equate a pizzagate guy who eats his own semen to gain the Gorilla Mind to being gay? #tolerance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Good troll? I hope that was a troll and not sincere, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 04:36 PM) Good troll? I hope that was a troll and not sincere, anyway. You are the one trying to claim that someone's lifestyle choices are so awful that it should disqualify them from being allowed to be a believable person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 04:42 PM) You are the one trying to claim that someone's lifestyle choices are so awful that it should disqualify them from being allowed to be a believable person. Im dont want to mess up your thread, but I think that this statement is outrageous. If I am having an argument math and someone says: 2+2= 5 and then goes on to tell me about mathematical equations, I have every right to question whether that person should be believable when it comes to math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 04:45 PM) Im dont want to mess up your thread, but I think that this statement is outrageous. If I am having an argument math and someone says: 2+2= 5 and then goes on to tell me about mathematical equations, I have every right to question whether that person should be believable when it comes to math. BS. With all of the equal rights pushes, you can't talk about things like gay rights, and then try to disqualify someone's believably level because of something like that. It is hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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