southsider2k5 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) I'm on the fence to be honest. Part of me agrees the cubs should have to overpay but the other part me doesn't really care because adding Happ, Candelario and Jimenez would be a huge boost to a farm that could use more quality hitting prospects. Candelario is ready now.Happ could be ready for the '18 season and adding Jimenez to Basabe ( both outfielders) down in A ball would be fun to keep track of. Taking the rivalry aspect of it out of the equation. Those three hitters for Q is probably pretty close to fair value. Now bring the rivalry back into the equation ask ourselves, how much more will it take? This is the part I get hung up on because I'm not sure how much that "rivalry tax" is worth. Throw in Eddy Martinez and I am good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) Man, I know its all we got right now but how are you guys still interested with offering up hypothetical's for Q? Havent we already ran through about all the possibilities like 1000 times through, if not more, for each possibility multiple times? One aspect you over looked is that we are obviously bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) Man, I know its all we got right now but how are you guys still interested with offering up hypothetical's for Q? Havent we already ran through about all the possibilities like 1000 times through, if not more, for each possibility multiple times? Yes we have and no I'm not interested in making up deals that have been discussed for almost 2 months (if not more really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) Throw in Eddy Martinez and I am good. Works for me too. I wouldn't object to Caratini as a fourth piece either. I think Happ, Jimenez , Candelario plus one of Martinez/Caratini is pretty reasonable for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 04:05 PM) Works for me too. I wouldn't object to Caratini as a fourth piece either. I think Happ, Jimenez , Candelario plus one of Martinez/Caratini is pretty reasonable for both sides. I could care less who we trade Q to if it means we are getting the best package in return, even if that comes from the Cubs A high profile deal like this is unlikely because if it goes wrong one team will have regret for years Quintana could make sense for the Cubs due to the 4 years and relatively low cost because it would allow them to still spend on free agents moving forward Replacing Arrieta (potentially and Lackey after this season is not going to be cheap. The Cubs window is right now before all their young guys get more expensive after hitting their arbitration years. The Sox would want at least one interesting arm to go along with Jimenez, Happ and Candelario, but it would add Quintana without subtracting from the mlb roster at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I absolutely hate this thread... I come back every single time I open Google Chrome, to read the same things over and over thinking it will be different this time. I see 2 pages since last visit oh it's going to be different, something new has to be happening. Nope same thing. Curse you thread curse you. I know I should just stay away but I can't help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (MDWhiteSoxFan @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 04:17 PM) I absolutely hate this thread... I come back every single time I open Google Chrome, to read the same things over and over thinking it will be different this time. I see 2 pages since last visit oh it's going to be different, something new has to be happening. Nope same thing. Curse you thread curse you. I know I should just stay away but I can't help it. That was me last Wednesday. Went to a meeting for an hour and there were 5 pages added in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 01:17 PM) Quintana isn't an ace you idiot, just look at his win/loss record. 4th starter at best. i think the lack of strikeouts (comparatively) is what makes people question it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Maybe thread should be closed until theres some significant news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It's not like anyone is forced to read this thread. Just don't open it if you don't want to. It's that's simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 04:29 PM) It's not like anyone is forced to read this thread. Just don't open it if you don't want to. It's that's simple. Exactly, how can someone get their number of posts up if they don't post frivolous things in frivolous threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 11:29 PM) It's not like anyone is forced to read this thread. Just don't open it if you don't want to. It's that's simple. Or we come into a thread hoping to see updates from twitter, etc., only to see the 500th trade proposal asking for Cubs prospects or Meadows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 04:33 PM) Or we come into a thread hoping to see updates from twitter, etc., only to see the 500th trade proposal asking for Cubs prospects or Meadows Yeah I come here hoping to see something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 04:33 PM) Or we come into a thread hoping to see updates from twitter, etc., only to see the 500th trade proposal asking for Cubs prospects or Meadows What do you expect? This offseason has been extremely boring and there hasn't been a new rumor for quite some time, so we're forced to talk about the same recycled topics over and over again. Typically the thread title will change if there's an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) Man, I know its all we got right now but how are you guys still interested with offering up hypothetical's for Q? Havent we already ran through about all the possibilities like 1000 times through, if not more, for each possibility multiple times? This. I've been done with all the Q rumors since mid-December. I feel like every possible trade has been proposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 04:29 PM) It's not like anyone is forced to read this thread. Just don't open it if you don't want to. It's that's simple. QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 04:32 PM) Exactly, how can someone get their number of posts up if they don't post frivolous things in frivolous threads. I feel the same way gents. It's a thread for discussing rumors and trade proposals about Q. No one is forcing anyone to read. If people want to know if there's any recent news for Q, I suggest googling Jose Quintana or check out twitter. That's what I do and I don't even have a twitter account. Find something new or interesting, feel free to share with the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 05:29 PM) It's not like anyone is forced to read this thread. Just don't open it if you don't want to. It's that's simple. It's like a drug, I think we all need an intervention Also I think it's even worse when we have a thread closed on Q, then a tweet comes and a new one opens. IT's a vicious cycle haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (MDWhiteSoxFan @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 07:12 PM) It's like a drug, I think we all need an intervention Also I think it's even worse when we have a thread closed on Q, then a tweet comes and a new one opens. IT's a vicious cycle haha Exactly. I never get tired of talking Sox baseball, but even if I did, I wouldn't b**** and moan about other people still doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 08:48 PM) Exactly. I never get tired of talking Sox baseball, but even if I did, I wouldn't b**** and moan about other people still doing it. It's better than talking to my teenage kids. At least the board responds, even if it is usually negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 06:49 PM) It's better than talking to my teenage kids. At least the board responds, even if it is usually negative. Oh joy... thanks for the preview of what's to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 08:58 PM) Oh joy... thanks for the preview of what's to come Don't worry. That's why you belong to soxtalk! It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 04:17 PM) I could care less who we trade Q to if it means we are getting the best package in return, even if that comes from the Cubs A high profile deal like this is unlikely because if it goes wrong one team will have regret for years Quintana could make sense for the Cubs due to the 4 years and relatively low cost because it would allow them to still spend on free agents moving forward Replacing Arrieta (potentially and Lackey after this season is not going to be cheap. The Cubs window is right now before all their young guys get more expensive after hitting their arbitration years. The Sox would want at least one interesting arm to go along with Jimenez, Happ and Candelario, but it would add Quintana without subtracting from the mlb roster at all Quitana is a dirt cheap version of Lester.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Quitana is a dirt cheap version of Lester.... Rings matter a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 12:30 AM) Rings matter a lot. lol wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 10:30 PM) Rings matter a lot. nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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