President Donald Trump: The Thread

[StrangeSox]

State Department and Pentagon officials all opposed Trump's travel ban on Chad. Stephen Miller said do it anyway

 

Buried under all of the NFL bulls*** was a revised, expanded, and now permanent travel/muslim ban being rolled out last weekend.

 

 

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s decision to impose his updated travel ban on Chad came over the objections of Pentagon and State Department officials, who argued that alienating the nation, one of America’s more reliable counterterrorism allies in Africa, risked harming long-term national security interests, administration officials said on Tuesday.

 

The addition of Chad to the list of countries from which most travel is banned both befuddled and frustrated a host of administration officials who deal with Africa. Embassy officials said they were still trying to figure out why Chad was on the list.

 

At the Pentagon, several Defense officials expressed anger that years of close work could be jeopardized by what one characterized as a “casual” process that failed to take into account America’s long-term interests in the region.

 

“This confusion over the treatment of a key U.S. ally on combating terrorism sends the message that the United States cannot be trusted as a reliable partner,” said Monde Muyangwa, director of the Africa program at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.

 

 

Edited September 27, 2017 by StrangeSox

[RockRaines]

Stephen Miller is going to be raped in a prison some day, bank on it.

[RockRaines]

Suddenly glad I got that extra 2k a year...

Based on what i've seen, families that make under 80k/year are going to have a tax increase.

[StrangeSox]

Eliminating the AMT and the estate tax while raising the bottom rate and eliminating the middle rate is going to help everyone!

 

There's also a $500 credit for elder care. That'll cover, what, a couple of days of nursing home care?

[Balta1701]

My god his tax plan, wow. Looks like households under 50k are going to be paying quite a bit more.

They haven't even figured that part out yet. It's the same 1 page "plan" they could have put out and probably did put out at the convention last year. They literally have made zero of the hard choices of who exactly will be paying more. Any projection of who is paying more right now is a joke.

 

There's less detail in this than in Bernie Sanders's universal Health Care proposals while a candidate, and they've had nearly a year to turn this into policy.

 

One of two things will happen. They will either give up on any of the pay-fors because those are politically difficult and just remember that Republicans only care about the deficit when Democrats are in charge and just cut the top level individual and corporate tax rates...

 

Or Donald Trump will say something as racist as usual for him and his defenders will come out cheering and we'll forget about this, a-la infrastructure week.

 

Why can't someone pay me to write claptrap like this? 2 hours of work, tops.

[StrangeSox]

a-la infrastructure week.

 

Live every week like it's Infrastructure Week https://t.co/tRqgonFU4I

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) July 16, 2017

 

 

Why can't someone pay me to write claptrap like this? 2 hours of work, tops.

it took that long to write that post??

[southsider2k5]

They haven't even figured that part out yet. It's the same 1 page "plan" they could have put out and probably did put out at the convention last year. They literally have made zero of the hard choices of who exactly will be paying more. Any projection of who is paying more right now is a joke.

 

There's less detail in this than in Bernie Sanders's universal Health Care proposals while a candidate, and they've had nearly a year to turn this into policy.

 

One of two things will happen. They will either give up on any of the pay-fors because those are politically difficult and just remember that Republicans only care about the deficit when Democrats are in charge and just cut the top level individual and corporate tax rates...

 

Or Donald Trump will say something as racist as usual for him and his defenders will come out cheering and we'll forget about this, a-la infrastructure week.

 

Why can't someone pay me to write claptrap like this? 2 hours of work, tops.

 

I can't imagine the line is very long to be Donald Trumps PR guy right now.

[Balta1701]

I can't imagine the line is very long to be Donald Trumps PR guy right now.

I can't figure out how the line is long to be anyone in his administration, but that's assuming people are humans first.

 

The guy who was in charge of this beautiful 9 page, detail-less document is Jewish and had to stand behind Donald Trump while he defended people chanting "Jews will not replace us", then put out a lovely statement about how hard it was to deal with that but getting true tax reform done was such a great priority for him that he was ok with a little Nazism. The end result is this document, and apparently Donald Trump was so mad about his statement that he cost himself a shot at a job on the Federal Reserve.

 

 

[RockRaines]

They haven't even figured that part out yet. It's the same 1 page "plan" they could have put out and probably did put out at the convention last year. They literally have made zero of the hard choices of who exactly will be paying more. Any projection of who is paying more right now is a joke.

 

There's less detail in this than in Bernie Sanders's universal Health Care proposals while a candidate, and they've had nearly a year to turn this into policy.

 

One of two things will happen. They will either give up on any of the pay-fors because those are politically difficult and just remember that Republicans only care about the deficit when Democrats are in charge and just cut the top level individual and corporate tax rates...

 

Or Donald Trump will say something as racist as usual for him and his defenders will come out cheering and we'll forget about this, a-la infrastructure week.

 

Why can't someone pay me to write claptrap like this? 2 hours of work, tops.

There is a great tweet thread by a professor at UChicago where he dives into some of these concepts. I dont understand how they can be throwing out a plan like this while saying it will trickle down to the middle class and lower. People arent stupid enough to believe that right>?

[StrangeSox]

It's the same way they sold Reagonimics and the Bush tax cuts.

[StrangeSox]

Russians posed as real American Muslims to spread fake news and stoke divisions during the election

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-rus...amp;via=desktop

[Balta1701]

There is a great tweet thread by a professor at UChicago where he dives into some of these concepts. I dont understand how they can be throwing out a plan like this while saying it will trickle down to the middle class and lower. People arent stupid enough to believe that right>?

Like I said - if the Republicans try to actually remove deductions that are large enough to partially pay for these cuts, they will lose all their votes in Congress. That's why there are no details about how they'll balance the large tax bracket cuts by eliminating deductions. That's the essence of tax reform - you get some good and some bad.

 

It's easy to announce the good, but you only actually have a plan if you also have a list of what you're going to take away. They don't have that. They don't have any legislative plan. It's 100% as easy as saying we'll cut health care costs and cover everyone via magic, or we'll create a national health care system starting tomorrow - unless you do the hard work of crafting a policy you have no plan. They have had a year to work on this, to answer the hard parts, and they don't have any of the hard parts except removing the state income tax deduction, which directly hits states represented by 50 House Republicans and is 1% of the amount they want to cut. They still have $5 trillion in tax increases they need to find to call this anything close to reform.

 

That leaves 2 options. They cut taxes on everyone and go back to "Deficits don't matter" until January of (god willing) 2021 when suddenly the deficit will be crushing and hideous and awful again and totally the responsibility of Democrats to fix, or they'll fail to pass anything. In the former case, that's what Republicans usually do and usually want. The deficit is a horrible thing when it's a Demycrat deficit, but it's ok now since there's a Republican in office.

 

(interestingly, since the Federal Reserve has raised rates with inflation missing the mark 6 years in a row, some additional deficit spending won't be that bad still. Not particularly effective in a stimulus sense since it would be giving money to people like Donald Trump who are terrible at business, but after 6 years of inflation being too low it would actually still push some job growth. Since they'd have to make it a 10 year tax break, in a few years it would probably go the other way and the Fed would raise interest rates to offset that growth, but it would speed us up getting to that point.).

[StrangeSox]

We sent over 20,000 troops to aid Haiti and Japan after their devastating earthquakes.

 

We've sent 5,000 to Puerto Rico.

[Heads22]

hillarys emails

[LittleHurt05]

Stephen Miller is going to be raped in a prison some day, bank on it.

 

Stay classy San Diego

 

[RockRaines]

Stay classy San Diego

Ill take that as a warning

[Dick Allen]

Trump advisor can't guarantee taxes won't go up for some middle class families:

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-advis...ory?id=50149729

 

 

So there it is.

 

How are you going to pay for tax cuts for people who already have more money than they will ever need? Take it from people who need it.

 

It's all BS. Yesterday a Trumpite was saying it would be "paid for" by the robust economy it would produce. OK. More trickle down economics. Just because it was BS before....

Edited September 28, 2017 by Dick Allen

[Dick Allen]

Trump finally waived the shipping restrictions for Puerto Rico. Now, was that so hard?

[StrangeSox]

Trump has now insisted multiple times and across multiple days that there's a Senator in the hospital and that's why they don't have enough "yes" votes for healthcare right now. There is no Senator in the hospital.

 

If your 70 year old relative were behaving this way, it'd be time for concern.

[Dick Allen]

Trump has now insisted multiple times and across multiple days that there's a Senator in the hospital and that's why they don't have enough "yes" votes for healthcare right now. There is no Senator in the hospital.

 

If your 70 year old relative were behaving this way, it'd be time for concern.

How about last week when he was at hurricane Irma site and told the audience Melania really wanted to be here but she couldn't make it, and she was standing right next to him?

Edited September 28, 2017 by Dick Allen

[RockRaines]

The NYT has an amazing story about fake news and Twin Falls ID.

[Quin]

Trump finally waived the shipping restrictions for Puerto Rico. Now, was that so hard?

 

Well, the shipping industry didn't like it. #MAGA

[Dick Allen]

One thing you don't want from a Trump is them doing the math:

 

On an April 16, 2004, interview with Stern, Trump shares that he turned down several reality-show offers because “I didn’t want to have anybody watch me comb my hair,” while in an interview conducted on Feb. 27, 2006, Donald, Ivanka, and Don. Jr. can’t figure out the answer to what 17 x 6 is. “96? 94?” offers Don Jr. “That’s not a practical application, though,” adds Ivanka, refusing the question. “It’s 112,” chimes in Donald, who repeatedly insists that the answer is 112.

[StrangeSox]

Trump finally waived the shipping restrictions for Puerto Rico. Now, was that so hard?

 

They asked for it to be waived for a year, but Trump waived it for 10 days.

[Dick Allen]

Mnuchen says the tax cuts would cut the deficit over $1 trillion.

 

Who knew any problem with deficits and jobs, was just making the rich pay trillions less in tax? Everything will be fixed.

Edited September 28, 2017 by Dick Allen