LittleHurt05 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 08:45 AM) Glennon will be the Bears' next starting QB at about $15 million per. Glennon sucks. Or keep Jay Cutler for a $16 million cap hit. Option B sounds smarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 12:33 PM) Or keep Jay Cutler for a $16 million cap hit. Option B sounds smarter. Yea Jay is a 2M cap hit, so effectively you are paying the starting Qb position 17M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 12:29 PM) They haven't exactly had great QB play though. I'd be interested in Patterson from the pure sense that we lack speed and our special teams has been mediocre. He helps fill the void in both departments and potentially has some (albeit limited) upside as a receiver. As long as the price is right, I'm open to the play. Pryor is a guy I'd be all over (if the price was right). I think there is real potential upside if we were to sign him. Bears will improve that for him I think there is something to the lack of speed in Bears WR core. It's nice to have a wr fly guy, and the end around guy. If the price is right, great. We've had crap returners for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 09:45 AM) Alex MarvezVerified account @alexmarvez 8m8 minutes ago More Not sure if out there but source tells @sn_nfl that @ChicagoBears expected to make push to sign @Vikings UFA WR @ceeflashpee84 Cordarrelle Patterson doing anything for ya? I honestly think that dude has top 10 upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) Alex MarvezVerified account @alexmarvez 8m8 minutes ago More Not sure if out there but source tells @sn_nfl that @ChicagoBears expected to make push to sign @Vikings UFA WR @ceeflashpee84 Cordarrelle Patterson doing anything for ya? Check my signature... In all seriousness, I've been a firm believer that Minnesota never used CP properly. Is he smart? Probably not. Can he learn a playbook? Maybe. But he's so damn talented, you figure out a way to get the ball in his hands and let him go to work. During the 2nd half of his rookie year they found ways to let him get in the open field (as a RB, screens, etc) and let him do his thing. It was his best year. Then Norv Turner came in and he never did much else. I'd like adding him as a 3rd/4th WR, and yeah, as a return man, he'd be a significant upgrade. Edited March 7, 2017 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 08:45 AM) Glennon will be the Bears' next starting QB at about $15 million per. Glennon sucks. Worst part nobody. but Bears want him, Jets and SF not interested keep bidding against yourself Bears. 15 mil per year reported number no thanks. Another s***ty game manager QB should just sign Hoyer back IF that is what you want. Nobody can be happy or excited by this move. I am starting to question Pace as GM with this nonsense. Edited March 7, 2017 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I hope this isn't what I think it is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/footbal...m=.43e6d7d6eba4 Really drives home how terrible addiction is, where someone so talented in a position so cool can still get dragged down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Marc SesslerVerified account @MarcSesslerNFL Follow More .@MikeSilver tells @NFLNetwork 'it's more likely than not that Kirk Cousins ends up being the 49ers quarterback.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 51m51 minutes ago More Report: #Bears' competition to potentially sign QB Mike Glennon may be disappearing. http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/be...on-disappearing If they can get him for that price its not that bad. Is Price playing the market better than what everyone thought? Maybe? We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Methinks Glennon's new agent was talking to lots of reporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Adam JahnsVerified account @adamjahns 1h1 hour ago #Bears are looking deep at free-agent WRs. See Andre Holmes a local kid with some upside. They join 49ers, Raiders, Lions as interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) Marc SesslerVerified account @MarcSesslerNFL Follow More .@MikeSilver tells @NFLNetwork 'it's more likely than not that Kirk Cousins ends up being the 49ers quarterback.' That was kind of a given once Shanahan went to SF. OCs just love guys who know their system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) CSN Chicago reports the 49ers, Jets, and Bills have all dropped out of the bidding for free agent Mike Glennon. We're not convinced the Bills were ever involved, while multiple reports elsewhere suggest the Jets were severely outbid by the Bears. Bay Area reports state the 49ers have "no interest" in Glennon at all. With only the Bears left to bid, it's possible Glennon's price tag drops below his expected $14-15 million annually. All signs continue to point toward Glennon landing in Chicago. Source: CSN Chicago Stop the 15 mil a year madness talk now Pace. Edited March 7, 2017 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 10:33 AM) Or keep Jay Cutler for a $16 million cap hit. Option B sounds smarter. I think in a vacuum, keeping Jay and drafting a QB is the best decision you can make. We can drop him easily a year from now and talent wise he's the best of the current free agent QB's. That said, there is a point where just from a business / culture perspective, you have to move on and I get that with Jay. I presume if you go after Glennon, you are giving him up-front money and somewhere you have an isolated view that he can be an above average QB if all goes right and you are okay taking your shot at that, while also investing a high pick (not #3 high, but still high) in a QB who you also like (but obviously have doubts about...no QB picked in the 2nd round is guaranteed of success...clearly) and you figure going both routes the odds are there. I base all of this logic around the thoughts that you believe Glennon has some upside. If you don't think Glennon has the upside and he's purely here to groom a QB, I don't see why you don't just save the money and go with Hoyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 12:09 PM) CSN Chicago reports the 49ers, Jets, and Bills have all dropped out of the bidding for free agent Mike Glennon. We're not convinced the Bills were ever involved, while multiple reports elsewhere suggest the Jets were severely outbid by the Bears. Bay Area reports state the 49ers have "no interest" in Glennon at all. With only the Bears left to bid, it's possible Glennon's price tag drops below his expected $14-15 million annually. All signs continue to point toward Glennon landing in Chicago. Source: CSN Chicago Stop the 15 mil a year madness talk now Pace. I'm not mad at it, as long as we can drop him no problem in future years. Key to me isn't the per year, it is the guaranteed money and cap implications going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 02:40 PM) I'm not mad at it, as long as we can drop him no problem in future years. Key to me isn't the per year, it is the guaranteed money and cap implications going forward. We are in agreement just sign Hoyer as a place holder to overpay badly for Glennon makes no sense. Pace looking like a novice right now. Edited March 7, 2017 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 18s18 seconds ago More "Right now they appear to be bidding against no one." -- @ChrisWesseling on the #Bears' pursuit of Mike Glennon 670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 37s38 seconds ago More Who's going to be the most overpaid free-agent signing? "Mike Glennon." -- @ChrisWesseling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Why the hell do we even have interest in Glennon? Hoyer's a way better stop gap at probably 1/5 of the price. Edited March 7, 2017 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 NFL Network's Mike Garofolo suggested the Patriots are seeking two first-round picks in exchange for Jimmy Garoppolo. The Boston Herald previously suggested New England's asking price was a first- and second-rounder. Citing "someone somewhat connected to the situation," Garofolo speculated the actual cost would be a first-round pick in 2017 and another first-rounder in 2018. The Patriots have a ton of leverage in trade talks, and seem more than willing to keep Garoppolo if nobody bites. Source: Chris Wesseling on Twitter NE good luck with that, talk about over playing your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) Why the hell do we even have interest in Glennon? Hoyer's a way better stop gap at probably 1/5 of the price. Well, you know Hoyer is a stopgap. If the Bears think that Glennon can be a legit #1 QB, I don't have a problem guaranteeing him anywhere between $25M-$30M over 2 years (but ideally they would pay less than that). If he's bad, it's really only a sunk cost in Year 2, and you free the cap space back up in Year 3. If he's really good, or even average, you have him on a below market deal in the non-guaranteed years. I'm not sure that I'm on board with that deal for Glennon, but I see the logic behind it. Particularly if they pair a deal with Glennon with drafting a QB they think they can develop in the 2nd or 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 03:37 PM) NFL Network's Mike Garofolo suggested the Patriots are seeking two first-round picks in exchange for Jimmy Garoppolo. The Boston Herald previously suggested New England's asking price was a first- and second-rounder. Citing "someone somewhat connected to the situation," Garofolo speculated the actual cost would be a first-round pick in 2017 and another first-rounder in 2018. The Patriots have a ton of leverage in trade talks, and seem more than willing to keep Garoppolo if nobody bites. Source: Chris Wesseling on Twitter NE good luck with that, talk about over playing your hand. It's not overplaying your hand if keeping him to replace Brady is a viable option in their minds. If someone pays their price, great. If not, he waits behind brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 04:45 PM) It's not overplaying your hand if keeping him to replace Brady is a viable option in their minds. If someone pays their price, great. If not, he waits behind brady Brady wants too play 3 or 4 more years, NE can't pay TB and JG top QB money to hang around after 2017. Edited March 7, 2017 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 05:07 PM) Brady wants too play 3 or 4 more years, NE can't pay TB and JG top money to hang around after 2017. I didn't think they could pay them both either but Brady keeps restructuring and giving them flexibility. Brady may want to play 3-4 more years but he could blow out his knee in the first play of the season next year and call it a career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Also - if Bradford was some deal completely influenced by circumstance...he's not the only QB of a playoff team that will get injured next year. I know his contract will make it a bit harder to compare, but the Pats unfortunately are never actually in a bad position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Colts re-sign Doyle. 3 years, 19 mil. Interested to see if they cut Dwayne Allen and roll with Swoope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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