hi8is Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 17, 2017 -> 06:43 PM) Boston did not acquire Pomerania thinking he was a 4/5 starter, they gave up a big time pitching prospect to get him. He's also a pretty cute little dog... that counts for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2017 -> 07:26 PM) I don't see KC trading Duffy. Maybe naive but I think that org will try to hunker down with what they have. Duffy signed a 5 year extension with them. My guess is that they sign Hosmer and let Cain, Moustakas, and Escobar walk or trade them at the deadline. Cain would be a big addition for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 08:35 AM) Duffy signed a 5 year extension with them. My guess is that they sign Hosmer and let Cain, Moustakas, and Escobar walk or trade them at the deadline. Cain would be a big addition for someone. Cain is a really good player, but I'd be hesitant to sign a player who will be 32 years old next April to a long term deal He likely has a couple quality seasons left before he goes into decline and it's generally not worth paying top dollar for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) Cain is a really good player, but I'd be hesitant to sign a player who will be 32 years old next April to a long term deal He likely has a couple quality seasons left before he goes into decline and it's generally not worth paying top dollar for that I meant that he'd someone this year as a rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) Cain is a really good player, but I'd be hesitant to sign a player who will be 32 years old next April to a long term deal He likely has a couple quality seasons left before he goes into decline and it's generally not worth paying top dollar for that Cain is the type of player whose skillset doesn't age well anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) Cain is a really good player, but I'd be hesitant to sign a player who will be 32 years old next April to a long term deal He likely has a couple quality seasons left before he goes into decline and it's generally not worth paying top dollar for that QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 10:41 AM) Cain is the type of player whose skillset doesn't age well anyway. I thought it was obvious he was referring to Cain as just a rental piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) I thought it was obvious he was referring to Cain as just a rental piece. Noted. Cain would be useful if healthy to a contender in need of a solid outfielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 11:08 AM) Noted. Cain would be useful if healthy to a contender in need of a solid outfielder So would Avi Garcia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 11:09 AM) So would Avi Garcia. I think Avi has been great and I am really happy for him. He has put in a lot of work and it seems to be paying off greatly. I was one of his stronger supporters until about the middle of last season when I gave up on him. With that being said I dont think Avi will ever be a really strong trade piece unless he is going to stay among the league leaders offensively. He is just way too much of a liability in the outfield and unless he is producing consistent elite level offensive numbers his value will level out because he is atrocious defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Meadows is probably off the table in a Q trade. Starling Marte hit up w/ an 80 game suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (Special K @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 02:00 PM) Meadows is probably off the table in a Q trade. Starling Marte hit up w/ an 80 game suspension. Daaaaaaaaaaaaaayum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (Special K @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 02:00 PM) Meadows is probably off the table in a Q trade. Starling Marte hit up w/ an 80 game suspension. Q + MVP Garcia. Boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Pittsburgh most likely isn't a playoff team without Marte and no Kang. Plus even if the make the playoffs, Marte would be ineligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 02:35 PM) Pittsburgh most likely isn't a playoff team without Marte and no Kang. Plus even if the make the playoffs, Marte would be ineligible. Meadows was never on the table for Quintana as far as we know. If he was I would imagine a deal could be made http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2704212...-about-for-2017 This article suggests Martes is untouchable to the Astros, but that Musgrove, Tucker, Paulino + could be a possible structure. I personally do not think that gets it done. Paulino has flashed plus stuff, but has had quite a bit of trouble staying healthy Tucker is a good prospect who we could use Musgrove I like, but he as well has had injury issues creep up which have limited his innings The final piece would have to be substantial in order for it to be entertained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) Meadows was never on the table for Quintana as far as we know. If he was I would imagine a deal could be made http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2704212...-about-for-2017 This article suggests Martes is untouchable to the Astros, but that Musgrove, Tucker, Paulino + could be a possible structure. I personally do not think that gets it done. Paulino has flashed plus stuff, but has had quite a bit of trouble staying healthy Tucker is a good prospect who we could use Musgrove I like, but he as well has had injury issues creep up which have limited his innings The final piece would have to be substantial in order for it to be entertained Paulino is too injury prone. I think he's even injured now. Give me Tucker, Reed, Perez, Whitley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I agree Pirates are most likely out of the Q-stakes. Would have been nice if Q got a start this series in NY since I think he will come back big in his next start after the Minny stinker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (striker @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) Paulino is too injury prone. I think he's even injured now. Give me Tucker, Reed, Perez, Whitley That would be a tremendous prospect haul If our ask was Musgrove + Tucker + Martes and they balked, I can't see us lowering our sights too much beyond that That is a depth package I could get behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Should we be concerned that the pirates front office calls it a season and emerges as a massive seller at the deadline? The kang thing was bad but maybe even making them to want to buy more to stay in the WC race. But with marte being out too they might realize they are too far away and do a sale at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (GermanSock @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) Should we be concerned that the pirates front office calls it a season and emerges as a massive seller at the deadline? The kang thing was bad but maybe even making them to want to buy more to stay in the WC race. But with marte being out too they might realize they are too far away and do a sale at the deadline. As far as I'm concerned the terrible starts of blue jays, cards, mariners and cards is all bad news. But the season is young, and they were all likely wildcard teams to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I think it was always likely we would see a a entirely different group of teams in the mix bidding for Q by the deadline then what was during the off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/854445888537853956 Q is gonna be on Jimmy Fallon tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 04:24 PM) As far as I'm concerned the terrible starts of blue jays, cards, mariners and cards is all bad news. But the season is young, and they were all likely wildcard teams to start. It's way too soon to judge a hot or cold start No playoff spots are determined in April, let alone May No team is buying or selling right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Who would the Pirates trade, other than McCutcheon? They already traded Melancon last year, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I am actually wondering if the Pirates knew Marte was either on PEDS or had been tested for it during the offseason and that is why they were so unwilling to make a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 09:06 PM) I am actually wondering if the Pirates knew Marte was either on PEDS or had been tested for it during the offseason and that is why they were so unwilling to make a trade. He tested positive during ST, I imagine the team knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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