iamshack Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) Not that I disagree with the overall point, but Brad Peacock is pretty goddamn filthy nowadays. Yeah, although he's still walking too many. Would you want to rely on Peacock or Q, Wite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 10:51 AM) Yeah, although he's still walking too many. Would you want to rely on Peacock or Q, Wite? Oh, I'd much rather rely on Q. Even as good as they've been, I feel the Astros are setting themselves up for disappointment in the postseason. To some extent, they feel like the 2001 Mariners - coast all the way to the postseason with the best record in the AL (though the Astros won't have the best record of all time) only to get eliminated by a team with much better pitching. I mean, their bullpen is outrageously good, so if they can just get 4-5 innings out of their starters, they may be able to get by, but that's a lot to count on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 10:20 AM) Oh, I'd much rather rely on Q. Even as good as they've been, I feel the Astros are setting themselves up for disappointment in the postseason. To some extent, they feel like the 2001 Mariners - coast all the way to the postseason with the best record in the AL (though the Astros won't have the best record of all time) only to get eliminated by a team with much better pitching. I mean, their bullpen is outrageously good, so if they can just get 4-5 innings out of their starters, they may be able to get by, but that's a lot to count on. I was talking to an Astros fan buddy of mine and he truly has no concern about the pitching staff. He said that they can hit their way out of any deficit. I pointed out that in the postseason it usually comes down to the stronger pitching staff and he seemed to believe that that rule wouldn't apply with an offense like theirs. He wants them to stand pat. It makes zero sense and, as you say, we've seen time and again the team with amazing offense come up short in the postseason. Hell, Astros fans forget about 2005 already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 12:29 PM) I was talking to an Astros fan buddy of mine and he truly has no concern about the pitching staff. He said that they can hit their way out of any deficit. I pointed out that in the postseason it usually comes down to the stronger pitching staff and he seemed to believe that that rule wouldn't apply with an offense like theirs. He wants them to stand pat. It makes zero sense and, as you say, we've seen time and again the team with amazing offense come up short in the postseason. Hell, Astros fans forget about 2005 already? Watching the Astros blow this will be extremely satisfying after how they perceived Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I say send Robertson and 10 m to Washington for carter kieboom. Not a top100 yet but he is a shortstop, was drafted in the first round 2 years ago and really raked so far. He will be a top100 soon and the Sox really need middle infield prospects as that is still a weak spot of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 11:29 AM) I was talking to an Astros fan buddy of mine and he truly has no concern about the pitching staff. He said that they can hit their way out of any deficit. I pointed out that in the postseason it usually comes down to the stronger pitching staff and he seemed to believe that that rule wouldn't apply with an offense like theirs. He wants them to stand pat. It makes zero sense and, as you say, we've seen time and again the team with amazing offense come up short in the postseason. Hell, Astros fans forget about 2005 already? yea, well they've already been swept at home by Cleveland and that staff. The mistake they made was not giving up Bregman for Sale. It's a double hit - not only do they not have Sale, they have to face him twice in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (GermanSock @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 11:33 AM) I say send Robertson and 10 m to Washington for carter kieboom. Not a top100 yet but he is a shortstop, was drafted in the first round 2 years ago and really raked so far. He will be a top100 soon and the Sox really need middle infield prospects as that is still a weak spot of the system. BA didn't have him as one (yet), but BP said he just missed their recent top 50 update. I think he'd be a huge get and probably fills a bigger organizational need than Soto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 12:56 PM) BA didn't have him as one (yet), but BP said he just missed their recent top 50 update. I think he'd be a huge get and probably fills a bigger organizational need than Soto. If Hahn could swing Kieboom + Luzardo, I'd be one happy man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 12:36 PM) If Hahn could swing Kieboom + Luzardo, I'd be one happy man. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Joe Ross from the Nats, meet Tommy John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Nationals trying to acquire both Doolittle and Madson from the A's per Ken Rosenthal on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 There goes the "they are hamstrung" theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 04:13 PM) Nationals trying to acquire both Doolittle and Madson from the A's per Ken Rosenthal on twitter. Hey, he's alive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 05:16 PM) There goes the "they are hamstrung" theory Yeah was hoping we'd be that 2 for 1 reliever team. At least that takes 2 guys off the market. Luckily the Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Astros, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Rangers, Rockies, Cardinals, and Astros all looking for relievers. There will definitely be a market. Edited July 15, 2017 by Username Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb0928 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 QUOTE (Username @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 05:22 PM) Yeah was hoping we'd be that 2 for 1 reliever team. At least that takes 2 guys off the market. Luckily the Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Astros, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Rangers, Rockies, Cardinals, and Astros all looking for relievers. There will definitely be a market. Nats pen tonight so far 7 runs in 1 inning so far. Were up 10-0 and now 10-7 with no outs in the 9th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 QUOTE (ecupittfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 07:41 PM) Nats pen tonight so far 7 runs in 1 inning so far. Were up 10-0 and now 10-7 with no outs in the 9th. Holy f*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 07:42 PM) Holy f*** Back up the truck and drop off robertson/ swarzak / tommy boy for an absolute haul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 10:42 PM) Back up the truck and drop off robertson/ swarzak / tommy boy for an absolute haul Soto and Kieboom. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Nationals fans on twitter were saying "Don't you realize those were triple A guys?" Umm, yeah, you are still f***ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 12:06 AM) Soto and Kieboom. Done. Better be getting robles especially if sox are eating robertson money too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 10:02 AM) Better be getting robles especially if sox are eating robertson money too. Shoot for the stars I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) Shoot for the stars I guess. If they are getting swarzak, kahnle and robertson with sox eating some of his contract then robles has to be in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 10:02 AM) Better be getting robles especially if sox are eating robertson money too. Eh thought you were just talking about DRob, my mistake. Still highly doubtful that anything like that would happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 10:13 AM) If they are getting swarzak, kahnle and robertson with sox eating some of his contract then robles has to be in play. I'd rather have Soto, Kieboom, and an arm or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal now Sources: #Nationals acquiring Doolittle and Madson from #Athletics for Treinen and two prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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