flavum Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Giants and Phillies won today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Superstar Lamar @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 02:03 PM) I think the Sox will have an opportunity to draft Beer and choose someone else I'd wager you are correct. Luckily there will be plenty of worthwhile candidates with a pick this high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 6.5 games behind the Phllies for #1. 3 games behind SF for #2. 1 game ahead of San Diego at #5. Keep on keeping on, boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Superstar Lamar @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 02:03 PM) I think the Sox will have an opportunity to draft Beer and choose someone else A lot of rankings have Beer as a reach for a 2nd, 3rd pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 10:12 PM) A lot of rankings have Beer as a reach for a 2nd, 3rd pick It all depends on the next season. Beer was ranked so high because he had that outstanding freshman year. Most are not that good their first year. Last year was good but a step back. To be in conversation for first overall again he needs a monster year and basically be clearly the nest college hitter by some margin because he is a corner of at best. Usually those guys don't get drafted first overall, but if he is projected as a generational hitter that doesn't matter. But if he just has a very good season (20hr, 1000 ops) he could probably fall to late top10. I would actually like if they got turang. Usually you should not go by need but the sox system has absolutely nothing at shortstop and shortstops are the most valuable prospects as they can also move to every other position except catcher. So if turang is one of the 5 best players why not go for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (GermanSock @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 03:32 AM) It all depends on the next season. Beer was ranked so high because he had that outstanding freshman year. Most are not that good their first year. Last year was good but a step back. To be in conversation for first overall again he needs a monster year and basically be clearly the nest college hitter by some margin because he is a corner of at best. Usually those guys don't get drafted first overall, but if he is projected as a generational hitter that doesn't matter. But if he just has a very good season (20hr, 1000 ops) he could probably fall to late top10. I would actually like if they got turang. Usually you should not go by need but the sox system has absolutely nothing at shortstop and shortstops are the most valuable prospects as they can also move to every other position except catcher. So if turang is one of the 5 best players why not go for him? Because Tank for Turang doesn't sound as cool? I have confidence the Sox will make the right decision, irrespective of what we all theorize, and shortstop is a weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Padres and Giants open a crucial four game series tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 08:54 AM) Padres and Giants open a crucial four game series tonight. I would not be surprised if we are very much in contention for the #1 overall pick, especially if we are able to move Melky/Swarzak/Avi/Abreu. We are at 38 wins, and I have my doubts that we will get to 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soha Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (GermanSock @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 03:32 AM) It all depends on the next season. Beer was ranked so high because he had that outstanding freshman year. Most are not that good their first year. Last year was good but a step back. To be in conversation for first overall again he needs a monster year and basically be clearly the nest college hitter by some margin because he is a corner of at best. Usually those guys don't get drafted first overall, but if he is projected as a generational hitter that doesn't matter. But if he just has a very good season (20hr, 1000 ops) he could probably fall to late top10. I would actually like if they got turang. Usually you should not go by need but the sox system has absolutely nothing at shortstop and shortstops are the most valuable prospects as they can also move to every other position except catcher. So if turang is one of the 5 best players why not go for him? Umm, if he's the clear cut BPA then fine. But you better not pass up BPA for a need in the top 5 of the draft. That would be crazy IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Soha @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 09:25 AM) Umm, if he's the clear cut BPA then fine. But you better not pass up BPA for a need in the top 5 of the draft. That would be crazy IMO. The only exception for me is if they go fielding over pitching. I can understand either way with that. Otherwise, BPA. tankforbeer is a movement which should really say "tankforbpa" but that doesn't sound as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soha Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 09:27 AM) The only exception for me is if they go fielding over pitching. I can understand either way with that. Otherwise, BPA. tankforbeer is a movement which should really say "tankforbpa" but that doesn't sound as good. My thought is if you're picking in the top 5 - you need to try to draft a franchise altering star talent. You don't go messing around picking preferable positions in that case. But yeah, if the bat looks good I wouldn't mind avoiding a pitcher. There are so many more health risks and bust factors with pitchers compared to hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Still sitting in 3rd, Phillies won today, Padres and Giants tied in the 10th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 QUOTE (beautox @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 01:23 AM) Still sitting in 3rd, Phillies won today, Padres and Giants tied in the 10th Only 5.5 back from Phils. Hopefully, Padres take 3/4 as I think Giants will be better than they were earlier this season. A split wouldn't be terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 we're gonna have a real shot at this. Especially when/if a couple guys like melky get moved. Would not be surprised to see other guys like abreu shut down for some borderline injury at some point either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 QUOTE (daa84 @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 09:37 PM) we're gonna have a real shot at this. Especially when/if a couple guys like melky get moved. Would not be surprised to see other guys like abreu shut down for some borderline injury at some point either Yes they are. The team is 38-56 currently with 68 games left. 24-44 finish really isn't out of the question. That's 100 losses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 It doesn't appear that the next Draft has any clear #1, at least not yet. If there are several players, especially a mix of position players and pitchers, whom are all regarded as being of similar potential, what's wrong with prioritizing need, or giving deference to some organizational strategy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 04:40 AM) Yes they are. The team is 38-56 currently with 68 games left. 24-44 finish really isn't out of the question. That's 100 losses Hard to see this team winning many games with this pitching once Swarzak is gone. Considering how the starters have been pathetic at going deep into games, we are looking at a ton of innings for horrible relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) Hard to see this team winning many games with this pitching once Swarzak is gone. Considering how the starters have been pathetic at going deep into games, we are looking at a ton of innings for horrible relievers. At this point, I'd be shocked if we didn't end up with a top 2 pick. Lopez is really the only reinforcement coming on the pitching side and the staff in place today is a complete mess and that's with Swarzak. The offense is also going to take a hit when Melky is traded, although perhaps Moncada offsets that. Regardless, this is a very bad team and I think we'll be neck and neck with the Phillies for the #1 pick by the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) Hard to see this team winning many games with this pitching once Swarzak is gone. Considering how the starters have been pathetic at going deep into games, we are looking at a ton of innings for horrible relievers. Once Swarzak gets traded, the best pitcher on their team will have 0.5 fWAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Since starting 13-9, the Sox have played .347 baseball. If they play at that percentage the last 68 games, they'll be right at 100 losses. You know the old saying... You can't win the #1 pick in April, but you can lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Reds won so the Sox finish the week with the 3rd pick position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Phillies won. If the Sox lose today, they have to be 5 games worse the last 10 weeks. Could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I want 2 wins against the Cubs. Tank is on hold this next series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) I want 2 wins against the Cubs. Tank is on hold this next series. Why? Personal reasons? White Sox should be rooting for all the loses at this point. Go cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I'll just suspend commenting the next four days. We know this team is s***ty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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