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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 07:31 AM)
Protected players list is due by 9am this morning. No word yet from the Hawks on who they will protect from the expansion draft.

 

And it was delayed until 930. Sounds like the Hawks are trying to work a deal to shed the Kruger contract, losing TVR in the process

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QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 10:30 AM)
List is out. Not sure why they'd protect Seabrook or Hossa, but I haven't paid much attention to the rules of this draft.

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2017/6/18/...ckhawks-players

 

They both have no movement clauses. Would have to give permission to be left unprotected

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 11:09 AM)
They both have no movement clauses. Would have to give permission to be left unprotected

See, I told you I wasn't paying attention.

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NHL has quietly updated all the uniforms to the new Adidas sets. Most of the good jerseys look the same with an updated collar, but the Devils, Preds look bad.

 

The new Knights look is meh. The red in the sleeves makes no sense.

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QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 20, 2017 -> 09:19 PM)
Favorite part about Adidas being the new carrier is the on-ice jerseys are now $200 instead of $300

Would be interested to see if quality is affected. My Fiorentina jersey (Joma) is a lot better quality than my Juventus jersey (Adidas). I agree, though, that it's cool because there's no way the old jerseys are $100 better.

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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 20, 2017 -> 10:27 PM)
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thou...final-nhl-game/

 

Hossa might be forced to retire or long term IR. Wow

Holy s***, that is what the Hawks came up with?!?

 

This has been a thing for like 3 years. The contract is built so this is the year he retires. I just can't believe the allergic reaction is what they are going with.

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QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 20, 2017 -> 10:30 PM)
Holy s***, that is what the Hawks came up with?!?

 

This has been a thing for like 3 years. The contract is built so this is the year he retires. I just can't believe the allergic reaction is what they are going with.

 

It sounds so ridiculous that it's hard to believe it's true. But you know They Are gonna think of something to get him on long term IR,and avoid the cap penalties.

 

I still can't believe they didn't grandfather these contracts in when they signed the new CBA.

 

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QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 20, 2017 -> 10:30 PM)
Holy s***, that is what the Hawks came up with?!?

 

This has been a thing for like 3 years. The contract is built so this is the year he retires. I just can't believe the allergic reaction is what they are going with.

 

LTIR would give them back all of his cap space right? Damn, between the Kruger deal and this, they could claw back almost $10 million. Cap problems solved, boom.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 20, 2017 -> 11:03 PM)
LTIR would give them back all of his cap space right? Damn, between the Kruger deal and this, they could claw back almost $10 million. Cap problems solved, boom.

Ya, if you go back to the older threads, this has been talked about for years. LTIR is the only way to get that money off the books.

 

When the contract was originally signed, we all assumed they had a handshake agreement that the 2016-2017 season was his last, based on how the contract was structured. He is only getting 3 million dollars in cash the next 3 years. But the cap hit is still 5.5 or whatever it is. But when they changed the rules, they didn't grandfather these deals in.

 

I always assumed it was going to be his back or something they used as the excuse.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 20, 2017 -> 11:03 PM)
LTIR would give them back all of his cap space right? Damn, between the Kruger deal and this, they could claw back almost $10 million. Cap problems solved, boom.

 

Even though I saw a quote from someone close to the situation who said he didn't appreciate the idea that this was made up, and it's a serious health issue for Marian, I really do hope it was made it up. It would suck to see a legendary player like Hossa suffer and have to wimper in to retirement before he wanted to call it quits.

 

I'm all for the cap space, but I hope it was Hossa's decision, not an actual health issue.

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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 07:00 AM)
Even if it's for cap purposes, Hawks are better with a healthy Hossa on the ice. Sucks for him and the Hawks.

Can't argue with that.

 

And I just want to throw out there that if this is really true, it's an absolutely brutal way for him to end a career and it sucks. With that said, I'm a born skeptic and this just doesn't really pass the smell test right now. We've never heard a word about this until now, the statements released today were VERY careful to not call it a retirement but just that he won't play this season, and him going on LTIR has been something that has been talked about for YEARS. It's just...weird.

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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 07:00 AM)
Even if it's for cap purposes, Hawks are better with a healthy Hossa on the ice. Sucks for him and the Hawks.

 

With all the salary cap talk, it was easy to forget that Hossa scored 26 goals last season. And the Hawks are losing Kruger in the next 18 hours. Bowman will have some cap space to play with, but more big holes to fill.

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It's a s***ty way to go out if he must. He's a stud.

 

That said, the cap hit of $5.275m for the next four season (through 2021-22) will be welcomed back for a younger, better player if that's the way it goes. Hossa has only been a .57 ppg player over the past two seasons.

 

All's well that ends well.

Edited by Steve9347

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