caulfield12 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Bernie and Jane Sanders, under FBI investigation for bank fraud, hire lawyers http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-and-jan...d-hire-lawyers/ Pretty sure we can relate this to the other thread and why bipartisanship is dying....depending on which side of fence, it kicked into full gear with Nixon and then Clintons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 05:57 AM) Bernie and Jane Sanders, under FBI investigation for bank fraud, hire lawyers http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-and-jan...d-hire-lawyers/ Pretty sure we can relate this to the other thread and why bipartisanship is dying....depending on which side of fence, it kicked into full gear with Nixon and then Clintons. Bank fraud?? I love Bernie. I wonder if I was mistaken in my fandom of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 02:31 AM) Bank fraud?? I love Bernie. I wonder if I was mistaken in my fandom of him. Wait to see if anything comes of it. Likely nothing will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 12:31 AM) Bank fraud?? I love Bernie. I wonder if I was mistaken in my fandom of him. Did you read the article or search for one, it's related to a loan his wife was aggressive in securing for her university...that later went bankrupt, and the allegation against Bernie is using his influence/power to help secure it. Basically, what Trump does everyday (still) in his business dealings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I love this so much. #shadenfreude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 03:09 AM) Wait to see if anything comes of it. Likely nothing will. That doesn't mean they didn't do some shady s***. Bernie is no saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 QUOTE (Reddy @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 11:46 AM) That doesn't mean they didn't do some shady s***. Bernie is no saint. You know that I don't deify him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I don't get why you seem to be excited about this, Reddy. Bernie being charged with a crime isn't going to make his fans or leftists in general embrace centrist Democrats all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 25, 2017 Author Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Just the opposite. We can't trust crooked Hillary and Bill, but that Sanders sure seemed like a different kind of politician who didn't care about money or personally enriching himself. At least Trump doesn't pretend to be something he's not. Translation, Democrats are less truthworthy than even Republicans, and, in this Sanders case again, more connected to banks and Wall Street than Main Street, where most of the country lives. (If they can make it stick...still seems 75% partisan and 25% smoke more directly related to his wife). Edited June 25, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 09:39 PM) I don't get why you seem to be excited about this, Reddy. Bernie being charged with a crime isn't going to make his fans or leftists in general embrace centrist Democrats all of a sudden. Eh, I just really hate Bernie and the obsession people have with him. I've been through this with John Edwards. It sucks, but they'll be better for it when they realize he's just a politician like everyone else. For the record, I'm not asking anyone to embrace centrism. I'm not a centrist, politically speaking. I'm a pragmatist. I support many "far left" policies, but think we should prioritize winning above all else, meaning we run moderates where they can win and progressives where they can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 There's real smoke with this—somebody involved with the loan application knew they were bulls***ting—the only question is whether Jane Sanders was merely negligent or actually knowingly participated in the deception. The alleged pressure from Bernie, though, seems purely politically motivated and the public record doesn't provide a shred of evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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