Jose Abreu Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:00 PM) So did the deleted tweet say anything about Q or was it just about an unexpected trade looming Depends on who you ask, but in reality, probably the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 "Hey guys, take this with a grain of salt, but I heard from a friend who's brothers friend works for the cubs (sounds like bulls*** I know), that Q is going to the cubs in exchange for 4 players. Has anyone heard anything similar?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (OklahomaBrave @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:49 PM) I saw Enscheffs posts, he is a regular at talking chop where I post. And I posted here frequently all offseason, and started reading here daily again about a week or so ago. Side note, I like your board! Homerism is present for all fans of all teams of course, but I feel as though you have a really reasonable well informed fan base. I don't really agree that the Braves follow the surplus value model Enscheff presented, so I don't personally agree with that reasoning, although his logic is sound and well presented.  I said back in the offseason I didn't think the Braves would trade Acuna or Maitan. I think that is more true now than it was this offseason. I think they would trade any pitcher, and even though the Whitesox have great young pitchers, they could use a top shelf lefty. Allard is our best pitching prospect, but I think he could be had. I believe he's better, and held in higher regard than Newcomb, even though the later is in our rotation. I do think they would trade Albies. I know Ensheff doesn't like him, but Austin Riley is a legit prospect and could be trade fodder as well. He has real plus power and many scouts are enthused about his improving body and defensive work. He also has a cannon. He's probably in the 120-150 range for many listers.  People with sources I've talked to seem to think we'd prefer to trade Allard to Soroka, which I disagree with, but whatever. I'd be surprised if they gave up both Allard AND Albies since they are both too 25ish guys. For those mentioning Pache, if he were the third piece, be psyched. Wait until Longerhans at FG's list is published, he LOVES Pache, and I believe him to be the best public evaluator. I'd hate to lose Pache, but I believe they'd include him.  The Braves will trade anyone from depth. We have a ton of pitching and a good amount of MI. Our outfield depth is ok enough we can lose Pache.  Totally with you on longenhagen. I like Callis but everyone on pipeline is a 45 or better. Eric seems to be much more realistic and when he beats to his own drum he explains it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Let's say we get Jimenez for Quintana and then draft Joe Gray Jr in the 2018 draft:  1B: Sheets 2B: Moncada SS: Anderson 3B: Burger LF: Jimenez CF: Gray RF: Robert DH: Abreu C: Collins  Add a big time free agent wherever you are the weakest and you could have one hell of a lineup in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 11:16 PM) Nice I was hoping KatyPerrysBootyhole would chime in. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:16 PM) Nice I was hoping KatyPerrysBootyhole would chime in. Well... her source was wetbutt23... so, you never know. Â And no - this is not me being a jackass... this is Reddit and the reality of the internet yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:16 PM) Nice I was hoping KatyPerrysBootyhole would chime in. The reddit user's source just commented on the post, and I bet you were hoping for this one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:16 PM) Nice I was hoping KatyPerrysBootyhole would chime in. Â Â What a great reddit name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:20 PM) The reddit user's source just commented on the post, and I bet you were hoping for this one too. Pretty sure I saw this on twitter earlier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) LOL you know we're desperate when a random reddit thread actually has me on edge. Â Some guy connected to the Red Sox leaked the Sale package exactly, about 5 hours before it happened. I couldn't believe my eyes. Ever since then I get roped in so easily. Edited July 13, 2017 by Username Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 He says they were all meeting with doctors tonight, but Eloy was actually on the bench for MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Username @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:24 AM) LOL you know we're desperate when a random reddit thread actually has me on edge. Some guy connected to the Red Sox leaked the Sale package exactly, about 5 hours before it happened. I couldn't believe my eyes. Ever since then I get roped in so easily.  But that guy had also broke the Red Sox/Brewers trade the day before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 @danb2310 has basically the same tweet...same language..."no pros," which I found unique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:29 PM) @danb2310 has basically the same tweet...same language..."no pros," which I found unique Could be the same guy saying both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:30 PM) Could be the same guy saying both. Yeah, I guess I was trying to identify the reddit guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:16 PM) Nice I was hoping KatyPerrysBootyhole would chime in. That's the confirmation we were waiting for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (OklahomaBrave @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:49 PM) I saw Enscheffs posts, he is a regular at talking chop where I post. And I posted here frequently all offseason, and started reading here daily again about a week or so ago. Side note, I like your board! Homerism is present for all fans of all teams of course, but I feel as though you have a really reasonable well informed fan base. I don't really agree that the Braves follow the surplus value model Enscheff presented, so I don't personally agree with that reasoning, although his logic is sound and well presented.  I said back in the offseason I didn't think the Braves would trade Acuna or Maitan. I think that is more true now than it was this offseason. I think they would trade any pitcher, and even though the Whitesox have great young pitchers, they could use a top shelf lefty. Allard is our best pitching prospect, but I think he could be had. I believe he's better, and held in higher regard than Newcomb, even though the later is in our rotation. I do think they would trade Albies. I know Ensheff doesn't like him, but Austin Riley is a legit prospect and could be trade fodder as well. He has real plus power and many scouts are enthused about his improving body and defensive work. He also has a cannon. He's probably in the 120-150 range for many listers.  People with sources I've talked to seem to think we'd prefer to trade Allard to Soroka, which I disagree with, but whatever. I'd be surprised if they gave up both Allard AND Albies since they are both too 25ish guys. For those mentioning Pache, if he were the third piece, be psyched. Wait until Longerhans at FG's list is published, he LOVES Pache, and I believe him to be the best public evaluator. I'd hate to lose Pache, but I believe they'd include him.  The Braves will trade anyone from depth. We have a ton of pitching and a good amount of MI. Our outfield depth is ok enough we can lose Pache.  Thanks for the info -- all of my much less informed opinions of the Braves prospects seem to match yours exactly, so that makes me feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (OklahomaBrave @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:49 PM) I saw Enscheffs posts, he is a regular at talking chop where I post. And I posted here frequently all offseason, and started reading here daily again about a week or so ago. Side note, I like your board! Homerism is present for all fans of all teams of course, but I feel as though you have a really reasonable well informed fan base. I don't really agree that the Braves follow the surplus value model Enscheff presented, so I don't personally agree with that reasoning, although his logic is sound and well presented.  I said back in the offseason I didn't think the Braves would trade Acuna or Maitan. I think that is more true now than it was this offseason. I think they would trade any pitcher, and even though the Whitesox have great young pitchers, they could use a top shelf lefty. Allard is our best pitching prospect, but I think he could be had. I believe he's better, and held in higher regard than Newcomb, even though the later is in our rotation. I do think they would trade Albies. I know Ensheff doesn't like him, but Austin Riley is a legit prospect and could be trade fodder as well. He has real plus power and many scouts are enthused about his improving body and defensive work. He also has a cannon. He's probably in the 120-150 range for many listers.  People with sources I've talked to seem to think we'd prefer to trade Allard to Soroka, which I disagree with, but whatever. I'd be surprised if they gave up both Allard AND Albies since they are both too 25ish guys. For those mentioning Pache, if he were the third piece, be psyched. Wait until Longerhans at FG's list is published, he LOVES Pache, and I believe him to be the best public evaluator. I'd hate to lose Pache, but I believe they'd include him.  The Braves will trade anyone from depth. We have a ton of pitching and a good amount of MI. Our outfield depth is ok enough we can lose Pache.  Great post, welcome.  I feel the braves are interested, but remain on the periphery for now.  I still like my compromise deal of albies/gohara/pache/lotto for quintana as being fair for each side. Remains to be seen in the next few weeks what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:30 PM) Could be the same guy saying both. Wetbutt23 and @Danb2310 would conceivably be the same source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Well between the invisible Rosenthal tweet and the bootyhole and wetbutt I'm convinced Q and in headed to the Cubs. Imagine this in green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:40 PM) Wetbutt23 and @Danb2310 would conceivably be the same source Good old @Danb2310's source is @themark2306... aka... Richard Little... aka dick little... aka, he of 4 followers. #ThisIsLegit  Edit: I'd also like to point out that this post is a supremely valuable contibution. Edited July 13, 2017 by hi8is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Sorry late to the party been working all day, so what did these tweet say. And the DanB guys Twitter says no pros are included so that means no Happ or Schwarber if he's legit. So probably Cease, Jimenez, Cadlareo, and who? And this is not a great package IMO Jimenez is definitely not the main piece I'd want out of those talked about. Just interested in hearing what led to this Cubs hype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 With the pitchers the Cubs just drafted, trading Cease + for MLB pitching makes a ton of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:40 PM) Wetbutt23 and @Danb2310 would conceivably be the same source Danb2310 said his source is themark2306, so I think Dan is actually katyperrysbootyhole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:45 PM) Sorry late to the party been working all day, so what did these tweet say. And the DanB guys Twitter says no pros are included so that means no Happ or Schwarber if he's legit. So probably Cease, Jimenez, Cadlareo, and who? And this is not a great package IMO Jimenez is definitely not the main piece I'd want out of those talked about. Just interested in hearing what led to this Cubs hype? All the reddit and DanB stuff is probably unreliable, but check out rabbit's post on page 36. Also, WhiteSoxDave tweeted some teaser video just talking about Quintana and the Cubs, but it may not mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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