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Q traded to Cubs/Jimenez, Cease ++ to Sox

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2 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

This was written at MLB Pipeline about Kopech yesterday. They are expecting his return in 2021: White Sox: Michael Kopech, RHP (No. 2/MLB No. 20)
The highest-ranked prospect on this list, Kopech was completing his comeback from Tommy John surgery and slated to contribute to the White Sox before he informed them in mid-July that he had elected not to play this season. He's working out regularly with a personal trainer as he builds up toward bullpen sessions. He has the technology on hand to monitor his workload and provide feedback on pitch data as he focuses on the riding action on his fastball and distinctly defining his breaking pitches.

They 

Terrific, thanks.  I am really rooting for him to seize one of the spots in the rotation next year.  That would be tremendous to the rebuild (if we can still call it that...do we call it the contention window now?)

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15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Given the high likelihood we sign Cespedes or Colas in the offseason, I’d be looking for a veteran stop-gap solution for RF.  As for Kopech, the only way I’m trading him is if it’s for a legit cost-controlled TOR starter.  IMO, we can’t afford to give up a pitcher with his ceiling unless we’re getting a legit frontline starter back.

I totally agree.  I don’t understand the idea that we could trade Kopech as if he is just some run-of-the-mill prospect.  His ceiling is #1 starter and his floor is #4 IMO.

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2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

 

I really don’t see it unless the team goes cheap because of COVID.  Coming off what could be a #1 finish in the AL with plenty of young, talented starting candidates, either swing for the fences on a TOR type or use your money elsewhere for substantial upgrades (Springer in RF, Hendriks in BP, etc.).  I just don’t see how Quintana changes the calculus much when we already have Gioltio, Keuchel, Dunning, Cease, Kopech, & possibly Stiever as 2021 rotation options.

As I've said in other threads its not the move I'd make but its the move that appears to make the most sense based off what we know about this front office and Q.

Left on great terms, loves Chicago and has friends on this team. Adds an additional lefty and veteran presence to the rotation while not forcing the sox to burn options with other pitchers (Kopech & Stiever). Will likely come at a discount to continue to be comfortable (here in Chicago) and due to the market and his recent spat of injuries can be brought in on the cheap and with club options. Our fan base appreciates what he did while he was here and could help stabalize the back end while we wait and see with Cease, Dunning, Lopez, Stiever and Kopech.

If there is a solid run in the post season my expectation for the off-season looks something like this, EE, Yolmer, Rodon, Cishek and Mazara out. McCann brought back, Quintana & Brantley signed as we continue to see what becomes of Rutherford & Adolfo or Kopech/Cease/Lopez/Stiever and other assets are moved for a young cost controlled right fielder. If the roster size is continued to be expanded to 28 then I can see both Yolmer & Rodon being retained. 

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This was another of those quality over quantity. 

As of today Eloy alone makes this a white sox winner of a trade, if Dylan pans out, it is a huge win.

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29 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This was another of those quality over quantity. 

As of today Eloy alone makes this a white sox winner of a trade, if Dylan pans out, it is a huge win.

I obviously knew because his first few weeks in W-S were so insane, but I did have a quick reaction of forgetting that both Cease and Eloy were still only in A+ ball when acquired. 

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34 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

where is Mazara?

Forgotten, already.

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2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

This was another of those quality over quantity. 

As of today Eloy alone makes this a white sox winner of a trade, if Dylan pans out, it is a huge win.

I still can't believe they basically just threw in Cease.  Wasn't it rumored that the Sox rejected a trade of Schwarber + lesser prospects?

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14 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I still can't believe they basically just threw in Cease.  Wasn't it rumored that the Sox rejected a trade of Schwarber + lesser prospects?

I don't think they really threw  him in as much as the Sox demanded him and wouldn't do a deal otherwise.  There were also decent rumors about the Brewers having interest, which could have also pushed them to put Cease in the deal.

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3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I don't think they really threw  him in as much as the Sox demanded him and wouldn't do a deal otherwise.  There were also decent rumors about the Brewers having interest, which could have also pushed them to put Cease in the deal.

Yea, this is correct. When Hahn got a call from Theo at the all-star game and told him they we’re prepared to offer Eloy + Cease as the front of this trade, Hahn jumped on it right away. They agreed in principle there while working out the back end shortly afterward.

Hahn said the two of Eloy and Cease “far surpassed anything else that was on the table.”

That’s what I recall Rick saying at the time of the trade.

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On 7/13/2017 at 11:04 AM, knightni said:
QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 11:57 AM)
Also, are we going to get Gio or Lopez up to the big club now?

I'd say

 

Shields

Holland

Rodon

Pelfrey

Holmberg

 

I miss the days of this strong rotation 

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3 minutes ago, fathom said:

I miss the days of this strong rotation 

Holmberg just got the championship win for the Independent League Milwaukee Milkmen.

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7 minutes ago, knightni said:

Holmberg just got the championship win for the Independent League Milwaukee Milkmen.

Damn it. Hahn gave up on an elite talent too soon AGAIN.

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53 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I don't think they really threw  him in as much as the Sox demanded him and wouldn't do a deal otherwise.  There were also decent rumors about the Brewers having interest, which could have also pushed them to put Cease in the deal.

Ya, he definitely wasn't just a throw in.  Those were the two the Sox needed to make that deal.

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