iamshack Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 03:11 PM) I think that Rutherford is just so far away. and the Yankees think that they can win now, so they were willing to trade a good prospect since he is so far away still. And it was from an area of strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?playe...itting/2017/ALL Â Sure, and this guy had a 750 OPS (wow, 0.17 points different!!!) in the Midwest League at roughly the same point in the season last year...prospects don't stay on a linear path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwill Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 06:49 PM) http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?playe...itting/2017/ALLÂ Sure, and this guy had a 750 OPS (wow, 0.17 points different!!!) in the Midwest League at roughly the same point in the season last year...prospects don't stay on a linear path. Â I think this a very good post in terms of understanding its a development process. Sometimes especially a guy who is 20 years old take some time to make adjustments. Hopefully, He still probably has 2.5 years at the very least of development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) Ultimately, that is what I conceded yesterday. If they really believe in him, fabulous. They obviously do this for a living, while I sit on the couch. Â One minor gripe: Â It is IRRELEVANT that the White Sox paid very little for Tommy Kahnle. That has absolutely nothing to do with his market value. The White Sox paid an immense price for Gordon Beckham, and yet his market value was very little (despite them getting a decent little prospect back for him from the Angels). Â It works both ways. You're right. We traded Gordo to LAA for Almonte, who we traded to Rockies for Kahnle, who we traded to Yanks for Rutherford and Polo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Tito Polo catch from the WBC: Â http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v123...-sprinting-grab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 07:11 AM) Tito Polo catch from the WBC: http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v123...-sprinting-grab  Saw it live, not the best route, but it was a tremendous catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 In today's KLaw chat, he said Blake has no shot at all of staying in CF. he did say that the rebuild has been excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 08:02 PM) In today's KLaw chat, he said Blake has no shot at all of staying in CF. he did say that the rebuild has been excellent I don't think anyone really thinks he sticks in center despite him playing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Frazier's first at bat in Yankee Stadium was a run-scoring triple play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 08:02 PM) In today's KLaw chat, he said Blake has no shot at all of staying in CF. he did say that the rebuild has been excellent  The rebuild has been excellent, but he likes literally no one the Sox have acquired. How do you offer both of these opinions simultaneously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 11:44 AM) The rebuild has been excellent, but he likes literally no one the Sox have acquired. How do you offer both of these opinions simultaneously? Â Kopech is his highest rated pitcher. He loves Eloy Jimenez. He likes rutherford's swing but questions his power and position. He has Moncada as a top 20 player. Â Weird way of showing hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Kahnle and Drob are not off to good starts. Â 6ER in 4IP. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Apr 1, 2018 -> 08:14 PM) Kahnle and Drob are not off to good starts. 6ER in 4IP.  Robertson always ran hot and cold can’t really be upset about him being gone. Kahnle always looked like a one year wonder but I don’t know if he’ll ever be closer material. Eaton is red hot to start this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Apr 1, 2018 -> 10:14 PM) Kahnle and Drob are not off to good starts. 6ER in 4IP. It's still early but that doesn't surprise me  It's okay, I just hope we get a MLer outta it  Rutherford isn't projecting too well, Clarkin hopefully can be a backend guy one day and hopefully Polo can be a 4thOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Apr 1, 2018 -> 09:45 PM) It's still early but that doesn't surprise me It's okay, I just hope we get a MLer outta it  Rutherford isn't projecting too well, Clarkin hopefully can be a backend guy one day and hopefully Polo can be a 4thOF Yanks got what they needed from our three guys last year to go deep into playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Apr 1, 2018 -> 09:45 PM) It's still early but that doesn't surprise me It's okay, I just hope we get a MLer outta it  Rutherford isn't projecting too well, Clarkin hopefully can be a backend guy one day and hopefully Polo can be a 4thOF Yeah Rutherford had a down year but he's still plenty young enough it's his advanced approach at the plate that sort of makes you believe in him as a prospect even last year with the yankees he may have had a .733 OPS but he had a .281 AVG and .342 OBP the power will come.  Clarksin actually has the potential to be a mid rotation guy so we'll see. Heading into 2017 he regained some life on his fastball according to scouting reports. He was sitting 90-92 and reaching 95. Yankees were excited.  After more time off his velocity slipped into the 88-90. He just more then anything needs to put together a full season in the minors to build up his arm strength and stamina. He'll probably be on a limited inning count you would think.  Meanwhile I know you aren't supposed to laugh but look at Robertson reaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 It’s way too early to write Rutherford off. For whatever reason, the kid was overhyped since draft day and I think those unrealistic expectations have caused some people to view him as a flop due to his poor 2017 production. This is going to be a huge year for him as he needs to show some level of improvement in the power department. Playing half his games at BB&T Ballpark should help out. The raw power is there, just needs to find a way to harness it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 06:54 AM) It’s way too early to write Rutherford off. For whatever reason, the kid was overhyped since draft day and I think those unrealistic expectations have caused some people to view him as a flop due to his poor 2017 production. This is going to be a huge year for him as he needs to show some level of improvement in the power department. Playing half his games at BB&T Ballpark should help out. The raw power is there, just needs to find a way to harness it. From every report out of spring training and the hitters camp, the raw power isn't there. I think it was Kiley at Fangraphs who said after seeing him at the hitters camp he would put a 45 on his future power. So his upside comp as a below average power corner OF is basically Christian Yelich. That is a hard profile to achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 08:07 AM) From every report out of spring training and the hitters camp, the raw power isn't there. I think it was Kiley at Fangraphs who said after seeing him at the hitters camp he would put a 45 on his future power. So his upside comp as a below average power corner OF is basically Christian Yelich. That is a hard profile to achieve. Blake Rutherford is the poor man's Ryan Sweeney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 08:07 AM) From every report out of spring training and the hitters camp, the raw power isn't there. I think it was Kiley at Fangraphs who said after seeing him at the hitters camp he would put a 45 on his future power. So his upside comp as a below average power corner OF is basically Christian Yelich. That is a hard profile to achieve. I’ve read those same comments but question how his raw power would actually deteriorate so quickly. Again, I think he was overhyped to begin with and people are now over-compensating given the poor power output he’s shown to date. I still see average raw power potential in the kid. That along with a plus hit tool can make him an effective everyday OF. The question is can the White Sox get him to translate that raw power to in game power. That will obviously make or break him, but I don’t buy that in 12 months he went from 60 grade raw power (FV) to 45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 07:32 AM) Blake Rutherford is the poor man's Ryan Sweeney. Â His scouting report was David Justice we'll see he is still super young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 08:37 AM) His scouting report was David Justice we'll see he is still super young. Â I don't know how realistic it is since I haven't seen much of him but I'd be very happy if he turned into an early career Nick Markakis type... A guy who can bat 2nd, give you a high obp, can run a little, hit like 18-23 HRs, good defense, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 09:32 AM) Blake Rutherford is the poor man's Ryan Sweeney. Lot to be excited about here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 01:18 PM) Lot to be excited about here... Â When I saw him take his ABs during spring I couldn't believe how skinny he was. I know he's still young but he looked like a 16-18 year old HS player. One with a good frame sure, but very thin. He needs to hit the weight room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 01:42 PM) When I saw him take his ABs during spring I couldn't believe how skinny he was. I know he's still young but he looked like a 16-18 year old HS player. One with a good frame sure, but very thin. He needs to hit the weight room. Couldn't agree with you more  Saw him with Kanny almost immediately after the trade  Looks like an average Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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