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QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 08:47 PM)
Carson Fulmer, we've got a ticket for you to Birmingham on Tuesday morning.

 

He should of started there or in High A this year if Sox wanted to keep him as a starter.

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QUOTE (reiks12 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 01:50 AM)
keep throwing balls Carson, sure is working

 

Hey, let him enjoy this. Never know if he ever makes it back to a big league mound

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While we have played with effort and spirit in many of these games despite our record, when we are bad we are going to be really really really bad.

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Yea.. you can't be making errors with a rookie on the mound.

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Whichever scout recommended Fulmer should be put on notice, if not fired now. he does not have major league quality stuff.

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QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 02:53 AM)
Whichever scout recommended Fulmer should be put on notice, if not fired now. he does not have major league quality stuff.

 

He did at Vandy. Doesn't come close to resembling that guy now

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QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 08:50 PM)
an unfortunate example of how prospects are just prospects.... and draft picks.. well yeah...

 

Can't do a thing when you've been rushed. Seen some interesting prospects bust out because of that unfortunately.

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QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 08:53 PM)
Whichever scout recommended Fulmer should be put on notice, if not fired now. he does not have major league quality stuff.

I think it was a "draft by need" and not a "draft best available" type of pick

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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 01:59 AM)
Ian Happ would look good in our system/in our lineup right now.

 

Thank god for those two extra wins that prevented Sox from getting who they wanted

Edited by fathom

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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 07:53 PM)
He did at Vandy. Doesn't come close to resembling that guy now

 

What happened to him? I don't recall any serious injuries he's suffered. Given the Sox decent success the last couple of years with pitching prospects in ml, I don't buy that they ruined his mechanics. May just come down to confidence....we rushed him up far too soon after being drafted and he got knocked around a good bit.

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I like the Hayes discussion about Collins. Next year will be huge for him with an adjusted swing.

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QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 03:00 AM)
What happened to him? I don't recall any serious injuries he's suffered. Given the Sox decent success the last couple of years with pitching prospects in ml, I don't buy that they ruined his mechanics. May just come down to confidence....we rushed him up far too soon after being drafted and he got knocked around a good bit.

 

Mechanics are way different than at Vandy

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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 08:59 PM)
Ian Happ would look good in our system/in our lineup right now.

Water under the bridge. They just have to more correctly scout how going from 6 days rest to 4 will affect a guy's stuff. Easier said than done though.

Edited by Jack Parkman

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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 08:59 PM)
Ian Happ would look good in our system/in our lineup right now.

 

Benintendi would look even better (which is who the Sox wanted initially).

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I think you first must decide as an organization what and where you think he needs to be. Second, I don't think you can convert him unless he buys into the move. They really need to spend this off season going over his Vandy tape and seeing if something is different. Heck is it possible offseason to have an old pitching coach work with him in conjunction with Coop. I can remember Frank Thomas getting in a funk and getting former coaches to help Hriniak/Lau. We aren't contending next year and Fulmer holds a lot more value if you can get him back to starting effectively. The same holds for Giolitti if he comes up and struggles, we still have all of next year and maybe more for them to get "it". I completely agree with posters thinking he was a need and rush pick. We did him no favors so I feel like cutting him some slack.

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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 03:01 AM)
I like the Hayes discussion about Collins. Next year will be huge for him with an adjusted swing.

 

Everyone should listen to south side Sox podcast with the baseball prospectus writer on it. Some good insight in Collins and others.

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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 09:03 PM)
Benintendi would look even better (which is who the Sox wanted initially).

 

Agreed but he wasn't an option for them.

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Fulmer was someone at Vandy that never had the best command, but got away with lots of bad swings by opposition on pitches out of the zone due to his superior stuff.

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