RockRaines Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, Tony said: Literally. I love how it’s a much different font too, he actually copy and pasted it from somewhere, lol Fucking clockwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, RockRaines said: Fucking clockwork Let's see if he can dig up something about video games too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 minute ago, RockRaines said: An overwhelming majority of this country support more gun control, then why wont the politicians vote it into law? What does gun control even mean? It seems like a slippery slope. Are we talking gun control like Chicago? Where bad guys still have guns.Are we talking gun control like the UK that now has problems with stabbings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, RockRaines said: Las Vegas killer was totally hurt by what happened to him in high school the week before. It actually just came out that shortly before shooting hundreds of people, he was ranting about the government taking away his previous guns. This post-Sandy Hook article still resonates today Quote Our Moloch Few crimes are more harshly forbidden in the Old Testament than sacrifice to the god Moloch (for which see Leviticus 18.21, 20.1-5). The sacrifice referred to was of living children consumed in the fires of offering to Moloch. Ever since then, worship of Moloch has been the sign of a deeply degraded culture. Ancient Romans justified the destruction of Carthage by noting that children were sacrificed to Moloch there. Milton represented Moloch as the first pagan god who joined Satan’s war on humankind: First Moloch, horrid king, besmear’d with blood Of human sacrifice, and parents’ tears, Though for the noise of Drums and Timbrels loud Their children’s cries unheard, that pass’d through fire To his grim idol. (Paradise Lost 1.392-96) Read again those lines, with recent images seared into our brains—“besmeared with blood” and “parents’ tears.” They give the real meaning of what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School Friday morning. That horror cannot be blamed just on one unhinged person. It was the sacrifice we as a culture made, and continually make, to our demonic god. We guarantee that crazed man after crazed man will have a flood of killing power readily supplied him. We have to make that offering, out of devotion to our Moloch, our god. The gun is our Moloch. We sacrifice children to him daily—sometimes, as at Sandy Hook, by directly throwing them into the fire-hose of bullets from our protected private killing machines, sometimes by blighting our children’s lives by the death of a parent, a schoolmate, a teacher, a protector. Sometimes this is done by mass killings (eight this year), sometimes by private offerings to the god (thousands this year). The gun is not a mere tool, a bit of technology, a political issue, a point of debate. It is an object of reverence. Devotion to it precludes interruption with the sacrifices it entails. Like most gods, it does what it will, and cannot be questioned. Its acolytes think it is capable only of good things. It guarantees life and safety and freedom. It even guarantees law. Law grows from it. Then how can law question it? Its power to do good is matched by its incapacity to do anything wrong. It cannot kill. Thwarting the god is what kills. If it seems to kill, that is only because the god’s bottomless appetite for death has not been adequately fed. The answer to problems caused by guns is more guns, millions of guns, guns everywhere, carried openly, carried secretly, in bars, in churches, in offices, in government buildings. Only the lack of guns can be a curse, not their beneficent omnipresence. Adoration of Moloch permeates the country, imposing a hushed silence as he works his will. One cannot question his rites, even as the blood is gushing through the idol’s teeth. The White House spokesman invokes the silence of traditional in religious ceremony. “It is not the time” to question Moloch. No time is right for showing disrespect for Moloch. The fact that the gun is a reverenced god can be seen in its manifold and apparently resistless powers. How do we worship it? Let us count the ways: 1. It has the power to destroy the reasoning process. It forbids making logical connections. We are required to deny that there is any connection between the fact that we have the greatest number of guns in private hands and the greatest number of deaths from them. Denial on this scale always comes from or is protected by religious fundamentalism. Thus do we deny global warming, or evolution, or biblical errancy. Reason is helpless before such abject faith. 2. It has the power to turn all our politicians as a class into invertebrate and mute attendants at the shrine. None dare suggest that Moloch can in any way be reined in without being denounced by the pope of this religion, National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre, as trying to destroy Moloch, to take away all guns. They whimper and say they never entertained such heresy. Many flourish their guns while campaigning, or boast that they have themselves hunted “varmints.” Better that the children die or their lives be blasted than that a politician should risk an election against the dread sentence of NRA excommunication. 3. It has the power to distort our constitutional thinking. It says that the right to “bear arms,” a military term, gives anyone, anywhere in our country, the power to mow down civilians with military weapons. Even the Supreme Court has been cowed, reversing its own long history of recognizing that the Second Amendment applied to militias. Now the court feels bound to guarantee that any every madman can indulge his “religion” of slaughter. Moloch brooks no dissent, even from the highest court in the land. Though LaPierre is the pope of this religion, its most successful Peter the Hermit, preaching the crusade for Moloch, was Charlton Heston, a symbol of the Americanism of loving guns. I have often thought that we should raise a statue of Heston at each of the many sites of multiple murders around our land. We would soon have armies of statues, whole droves of Heston acolytes standing sentry at the shrines of Moloch dotting the landscape. Molochism is the one religion that can never be separated from the state. The state itself bows down to Moloch, and protects the sacrifices made to him. So let us celebrate the falling bodies and rising statues as a demonstration of our fealty, our bondage, to the great god Gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, soxfan49 said: Yeah, putting in extra security to prevent child death sure sounds like all the prisons I've read about so, just make it like airport security? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 “It’s the mental illness, not the guns!” *removes law that makes it difficult for people with mental illness to get guns* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tony said: Why don’t mass school shootings happen in Canada, Australia, England, etc? Are Americans more homicidal by nature? Well you have stabbings in England and now many are calling to ban knives. Is that the solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, Whitesoxin2019 said: What does gun control even mean? It seems like a slippery slope. Are we talking gun control like Chicago? Where bad guys still have guns.Are we talking gun control like the UK that now has problems with stabbings? Gun conrol in chicago means you cant buy one there, you can still possess one within the limits. You can also also buy one a foot from the border. So no. Second, yeah I'd be totally in favor of stabbings over shootings. Much less body count and danger to everyone. Sign me up. Now go and copy and paste the response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, RockRaines said: so, just make it like airport security? Make it like a Sox game. Empty your pockets, walk through metal detectors. If it beeps, you get patted down and your bag searched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Whitesoxin2019 said: Well you have stabbings in England and now many are calling to ban knives. Is that the solution? Yes ,then you can cut your steak with your gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: Make it like a Sox game. Empty your pockets, walk through metal detectors. If it beeps, you get patted down and your bag searched. People in nice areas with good schools would be in an uproar over that. Thats your obstacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Whitesoxin2019 said: Well you have stabbings in England and now many are calling to ban knives. Is that the solution? How many mass stabbings are there? How many people die from stabbing attacks each year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, RockRaines said: Gun conrol in chicago means you cant buy one there, you can still possess one within the limits. You can also also buy one a foot from the border. So no. Second, yeah I'd be totally in favor of stabbings over shootings. Much less body count and danger to everyone. Sign me up. Now go and copy and paste the response Whatever Chicago is doing is clearly not working. So I would suggest the opposite approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Whitesoxin2019 said: Whatever Chicago is doing is clearly not working. So I would suggest the opposite approach The opposite approach would be national gun control as a significant portion of guns used in Chicago come from not just outside the city limits but from neighboring states! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 minute ago, StrangeSox said: How many mass stabbings are there? How many people die from stabbing attacks each year? Heres a hint, much less than kids shot in our schools this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Whitesoxin2019 said: Whatever Chicago is doing is clearly not working. So I would suggest the opposite approach Exactly, gun control in the entire state as well as all surrounding states. Good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, RockRaines said: People in nice areas with good schools would be in an uproar over that. Thats your obstacle. It also does nothing for mass shootings that happen at college campuses, concerts, night clubs, movie theaters, shopping malls, train stations, or any other number of public spaces with large amounts of people gathered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, RockRaines said: An overwhelming majority of this country support more gun control, then why wont the politicians vote it into law? Because they are too busy picking left or right while pleasing their lobbyists to actually sit down and work on legislature together. Washington's refusal to compromise and work on a solution together is maddening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, StrangeSox said: How many mass stabbings are there? How many people die from stabbing attacks each year? The point is you take the guns away and in 10 years most of you will be calling for knives. It’s a trickle down effect. I’d say we need more regulation on loading up kids with drugs at early ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 *waits for “should we ban cars” talking point* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, Kyyle23 said: *waits for “should we ban cars” talking point* Is that after knives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, Whitesoxin2019 said: The point is you take the guns away and in 10 years most of you will be calling for knives. It’s a trickle down effect. I’d say we need more regulation on loading up kids with drugs at early ages. Wrong. You found the wrong talking point. Knives have another function other than killing. And when used in killing they dont do nearly the same amount damage from the same distance as guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, Whitesoxin2019 said: The point is you take the guns away and in 10 years most of you will be calling for knives. It’s a trickle down effect. I’d say we need more regulation on loading up kids with drugs at early ages. Does England want to ban knives? Have they discussed a knife ban and have they been met with resistance from the NKA? Just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said: Because they are too busy picking left or right while pleasing their lobbyists to actually sit down and work on legislature together. Washington's refusal to compromise and work on a solution together is maddening. Toomey-Manchin was the weakest token effort you could imagine after Sandy Hook. All it did was expand background checks. It was filibustered in the Senate by Republicans. How do you "compromise" with that? After the last major mass school shooting, House Republicans were trying to tie concealed carry reciprocity (meaning the state with the weakest CCW laws get to dictate who can carry nationally, essentially) passed. Where is the middle ground between "more guns, everywhere, all the time" and "literally anything to control guns"? What's the big money, big political force anti-gun lobby comparable to the NRA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, RockRaines said: Exactly, gun control in the entire state as well as all surrounding states. Good call Pretty sure you can just move to Mexico for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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