BlackSox13 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 https://sports.yahoo.com/report-giancarlo-s...-115119309.html Ken Rosenthal reports that Stanton is electing not to accept proposed deals to those two teams, but that he would consider trades to the Dodgers or Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 07:54 AM) 4 teams with great young cores. It looks like Ginacarlo just wants to win. Easy to say when he is banking 300M and has a full no trade clause. I think if he was on the open market his options would be a lot more open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 At this point, I don't think Stanton gets moved. Miami will get that roster and just keep Stanton on it. He has a NTC and he has the right to veto any deal. However, those big market teams have severe luxury tax concerns. I don't think he ends up in LA, NY, or with the Cubs for that matter. It doesn't make sense. The Marlins would need to take salary back from the Dodgers in order to move him and that doesn't seem like something they are willing to do. I would be all for the White Sox taking on Adrian Gonzalez and Scott Kazmir in order to obtain prospects as well. That type of scenario doesn't make sense for the Dodgers though. I can't see them trading prospects to move big salaries and then trading more prospects to take on Stanton's deal. It's fine that he doesn't want to go to San Francisco or St. Louis. I think he ends up playing on a terrible Miami club moving forward though unless he expands the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Have to say I'm enjoying this a bit. Marlins ownership past and present howling wildly over a player that has performed to expectations in the contract that ownership created that included a no-trade clause now crying foul at how unfair the whole thing is. Unfair is if he was albert belle, totally injured but refusing to retire. Unfair is if his performance was crap. Unfair is not that he is still a great player getting paid for his performance, but you don't want to pay for it and also want the best deal for trading those services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Not so fast my friend??? https://www.mlb.com/news/report-stanton-tra...ams/c-263112926 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Dodgers are in an amazing position to swoop in anytime and not trade anyone worthwhile if they are willing to take on all the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Cardinals officially out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) Cardinals officially out Hopefully this means they pursue Abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Suck it Cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) Cardinals officially out That's a win for the Cardinals ownership. Don't have to pay Stanton, but you can show the fanbase that you tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 04:11 PM) That's a win for the Cardinals ownership. Don't have to pay Stanton, but you can show the fanbase that you tried. Luis Robert. Stanton. So much winning for the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 04:11 PM) That's a win for the Cardinals ownership. Don't have to pay Stanton, but you can show the fanbase that you tried. Honestly, their fans are kind of over trying. They've been finishing 2nd in a lot of these things lately and people seem to be getting fed up. This one you obviously can't pin on them but ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 05:18 PM) Honestly, their fans are kind of over trying. They've been finishing 2nd in a lot of these things lately and people seem to be getting fed up. This one you obviously can't pin on them but ya. Sad truth for them is that no major stars really want to play in St. Louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) Luis Robert. Stanton. So much winning for the cards. I wonder if their fans are tired of winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 GIANTS out Looks like its Dodgers (or Yankees) or bust, baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 IF the Marlins are smart, they’ll keep him for a year and hope he gets sick of the losing and reconsiders teams like SFG & STL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 QUOTE (daggins @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 05:34 PM) GIANTS out Looks like its Dodgers (or Yankees) or bust, baby Hopefully they'll come calling for Avi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 01:11 AM) Hopefully they'll come calling for Avi. Outside of Ramos, SF has nothing that interests me for Avi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Stanton is sitting right there for the picking. Watch Houston end up trading for Stanton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Gotta question the wisdom for GM's giving no trade clauses. Don't know if agents are inherently smarter than GM's, or do they just have bigger stones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 05:36 PM) Gotta question the wisdom for GM's giving no trade clauses. Don't know if agents are inherently smarter than GM's, or do they just have bigger stones? It’s the fact that GM’s need to win now; their timeframe in the job is not often aligned with long-term consequences very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 We should do it, take his whole contract and give a few prospects that aren't the main guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 09:04 PM) It’s the fact that GM’s need to win now; their timeframe in the job is not often aligned with long-term consequences very well. So does that mean that Stanton would not have signed that contract without the No Trade clause, or does it mean that the GM was either stupid or overmatched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 8, 2017 -> 07:10 PM) So does that mean that Stanton would not have signed that contract without the No Trade clause, or does it mean that the GM was either stupid or overmatched? It means the GM didn’t give a s*** about potential future consequences, because his charge was to win now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Sounds like Yanks are gonna likely get him according to numerous baseball writers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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