Balta1701 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 23, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) I'd feel it was somewhat possible if we still had Kahnle on team to trade, but to acquire Joc with what we have means dipping into the prospect bin. Do not forget we could have a potential return coming from a Garcia deal also that could make this more palatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Has Holland announced his retirement yet? Has Shields? Has Pelphrey? They need to go away. Edited October 23, 2017 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 23, 2017 -> 04:08 PM) Has Holland announced his retirement yet? Has Shields? Has Pelphrey? They need to go away. Ha well somebody has to physically throw the baseball. You could argue rushing guys like Guerrero & Stephens to start the season since the big dogs like Kopech & Hansen will get more time in the minors...and maybe just Hansen. Â Giolito Lopez Shields That's it right now for start of the season right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 23, 2017 -> 05:35 PM) Ha well somebody has to physically throw the baseball. You could argue rushing guys like Guerrero & Stephens to start the season since the big dogs like Kopech & Hansen will get more time in the minors...and maybe just Hansen. Â Giolito Lopez Shields That's it right now for start of the season right? Apparently a certain someone didn't get the memo on Pelfrey being a free agent after the WS and that Holland was released in early September. Or that Shields has one more year left on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 23, 2017 -> 06:35 PM) Ha well somebody has to physically throw the baseball. You could argue rushing guys like Guerrero & Stephens to start the season since the big dogs like Kopech & Hansen will get more time in the minors...and maybe just Hansen.  Giolito Lopez Shields That's it right now for start of the season right?  Almost have to let Fulmer try to build on his success from the end of the season don’t you? That’s what I would do at least...feel like giving him a rotation spot could give him some confidence and hopefully keep him in whatever groove he was in for his last 25 innings or so last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Oct 23, 2017 -> 06:48 PM) Almost have to let Fulmer try to build on his success from the end of the season don’t you? That’s what I would do at least...feel like giving him a rotation spot could give him some confidence and hopefully keep him in whatever groove he was in for his last 25 innings or so last year. Yes, I fully expect Fulmer to open the season in the rotation regardless of how he does in ST. He's going to be put in "Sink or swim" mode.  I still think, especially with likely no Rodon, there will be a rule-5 pick of a starting pitcher also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Not a "buy-low" candidate but Adrian Gonzalez really has no room on the Dodgers roster. He would be the perfect guy to trade for (along with a good prospect or two) if he was with another team but since the Dodgers don't really seem to care about money, it's likely they'd be more willing to release him. He's set to make $22.4 million next season, the last year of his contract. Edited October 25, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 07:05 AM) Not a "buy-low" candidate but Adrian Gonzalez really has no room on the Dodgers roster. He would be the perfect guy to trade for (along with a good prospect or two) if he was with another team but since the Dodgers don't really seem to care about money, it's likely they'd be more willing to release him. He's set to make $22.4 million next season, the last year of his contract. Â Ew.. Why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 08:12 AM) Ew.. Why  Because of this:  QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 07:05 AM) He would be the perfect guy to trade for (along with a good prospect or two).....  The idea of taking on bad money along with prospects from teams so they can get under the luxury tax line. The prospect(s) makes the team trading for the bad contract worthwhile. It's been an idea kicked around here lately. Edited October 25, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 07:05 AM) Not a "buy-low" candidate but Adrian Gonzalez really has no room on the Dodgers roster. He would be the perfect guy to trade for (along with a good prospect or two) if he was with another team but since the Dodgers don't really seem to care about money, it's likely they'd be more willing to release him. He's set to make $22.4 million next season, the last year of his contract. Â Not sure where he would play here either. We already have a couple of DH's in the starting line up, with a couple of more potentially on the way in our top two draft picks last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 09:58 AM) Not sure where he would play here either. We already have a couple of DH's in the starting line up, with a couple of more potentially on the way in our top two draft picks last season. You're expecting Burger to be up this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 09:58 AM) Not sure where he would play here either. We already have a couple of DH's in the starting line up, with a couple of more potentially on the way in our top two draft picks last season. Â Don't play him. Cut him after getting him or cut him early if he sucks. The whole point of that idea is getting the prospects. He only has one more year left on the deal. It's a better idea than taking on Ellsbury's 3 remaining years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Speaking of the offseason, has anyone seen Moncada’s stories on instagram? Dude is doing some slaying, but not baseballs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 10:13 AM) Don't play him. Cut him after getting him or cut him early if he sucks. The whole point of that idea is getting the prospects. He only has one more year left on the deal. It's a better idea than taking on Ellsbury's 3 remaining years. Jesus christ that's a lot of money. $63 million guaranteed with a $5 million buyout to bring it up to $68.4 million total. Â I will happily take on that deal if they include Torres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) Jesus christ that's a lot of money. $63 million guaranteed with a $5 million buyout to bring it up to $68.4 million total. I will happily take on that deal if they include Torres. Yanks are hell bent on keeping Torres though, can't blame them. What about something like Jacoby Ellsbury + Miguel Andujar + $ for James Shields? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Has anyone talked about Michael Brantley? Â While I know we'd like to have LF for our multiple hitters that have no positions, it could be an interesting candidate if the contract price is right. Â Now, if his range suddenly got better from all his injuries, we could even try to say he's a CFer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 11:59 AM) Has anyone talked about Michael Brantley? While I know we'd like to have LF for our multiple hitters that have no positions, it could be an interesting candidate if the contract price is right.  Now, if his range suddenly got better from all his injuries, we could even try to say he's a CFer!  I like the idea of Michael Brantley. I also initially read this as Milton Bradley and almost s*** myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 12:40 PM) I like the idea of Michael Brantley. I also initially read this as Milton Bradley and almost s*** myself. Â Didn't soxtalk have a milton bradley phase at some point? Like Oakland As era? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 11:59 AM) Has anyone talked about Michael Brantley? While I know we'd like to have LF for our multiple hitters that have no positions, it could be an interesting candidate if the contract price is right.  Now, if his range suddenly got better from all his injuries, we could even try to say he's a CFer!  Yeah, there is no way the Indians pick up that option. He is definitely intriguing. Just not sure he can be counted on to stay healthy. But maybe someone needs to keep Tilson company on the dl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 12:46 PM) Yeah, there is no way the Indians pick up that option. He is definitely intriguing. Just not sure he can be counted on to stay healthy. But maybe someone needs to keep Tilson company on the dl? Â You know who else couldn't stay healthy and joined White Sox for their age 31 season? Â Jermaine Dye. Â Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 11:48 AM) Yanks are hell bent on keeping Torres though, can't blame them. What about something like Jacoby Ellsbury + Miguel Andujar + $ for James Shields? Unfortunately this in my eyes makes no sense for the Yankees. The Yankees will save the most money if they can get under the luxury tax in 2018 - they're close, but have to avoid doing too much offseason damage. After 2018 we all know their payroll is going to explode and push them back into tax territory. If they swapped Ellsbury for Shields, they save $1.3 million against the luxury tax level in 2018. They save money on the tax in 2019 by having Ellsbury gone, but the multi-year penalty is going to be worth more than that to them if they can avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 01:18 PM) Unfortunately this in my eyes makes no sense for the Yankees. The Yankees will save the most money if they can get under the luxury tax in 2018 - they're close, but have to avoid doing too much offseason damage. After 2018 we all know their payroll is going to explode and push them back into tax territory. If they swapped Ellsbury for Shields, they save $1.3 million against the luxury tax level in 2018. They save money on the tax in 2019 by having Ellsbury gone, but the multi-year penalty is going to be worth more than that to them if they can avoid it. After thinking more about it, I think it makes less sense for the Sox to be strapped with Ellsbury's contract. The Yanks benefit more by only paying Shields' 10M salary with the SD still on the hook for the balance. If the Yanks didn't send money with Ellsbury, they would shed 11.8M off their 2018 payroll so that would make sense for them but screw the Sox. Eh, forget it, bad idea.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 12:48 PM) You know who else couldn't stay healthy and joined White Sox for their age 31 season? Jermaine Dye.       Damn. Nice connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Joc just took a Verlander curve ball out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
credezcrew24 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 If the Sox think Dee Gordon could play well in CF he could be an interesting candidate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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