Another mass shooting, church in Texas

[Quin]

Now an elementary school in Northern California got shot up

[Brian]

Now an elementary school in Northern California got shot up

 

The kids and teachers all should have had guns, obviously.

[Dam8610]

Now an elementary school in Northern California got shot up

 

Sadly not a mass shooting by current definition as only 3 died.

[Quin]

Honestly wondering if we need to up the number on "mass shooting" or create a new definition for the larger ones.

[Balta1701]

Three or more is considered a mass shooting

 

https://www.congress.gov/112/plaws/publ265/...-112publ265.pdf

Depends on the group. The FBI uses 4 or more as their definition of a mass murderer/mass shooter.

[StrangeSox]

Well it's at least 5 dead now so it's a mass shooting by any metric

 

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/art...ylink=mainstage

[BigSqwert]

Well it's at least 5 dead now so it's a mass shooting by any metric

 

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/art...ylink=mainstage

 

I look forward to this being completely forgotten by tomorrow afternoon. *sigh*

[Iwritecode]

Well it's at least 5 dead now so it's a mass shooting by any metric

 

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/art...ylink=mainstage

 

Reading the story it sounds like the guy had already killed a few people and then for no particular reason went into the field of the school and started shooting at more people. My first thought was that this was going to be like Sandy Hook or Columbine where the shooter(s) was inside the school.

[caulfield12]

So it’s four, plus the shooter.

 

Same thing with LV, should we really credit Paddock with 59 when one was himself? Most reports now will put that shooting back at 58.

[Balta1701]

I look forward to this being completely forgotten by tomorrow afternoon. *sigh*

We wouldn't even be giving it a single post if it wasn't for an already available thread. It's an ordinary Tuesday of freedom.

[caulfield12]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/06/opinions/why...bins/index.html

Why We Don't Give A Damn About Mass Shootings

 

The statistics speak for themselves. A mass shooting is defined as an event where at least four people are shot. We now have one every day in America, if you adopt the broad definition used by the Gun Violence Archive. In fact, Vegas wasn't the only mass shooting on October 1, it was just the biggest. There was one outside the University of Kansas on the same day.

Edited November 15, 2017 by caulfield12

[RockRaines]

Went to Cabelas to check out their shotguns and I’m always surprised and the sheer number of people buying guns when I’m there. Specifically he types of guys obsessing over the assault rifles. It makes me nervous.

[Balta1701]

The President can't even keep straight which mass shooting he's sending thoughts and prayers to.

[StrangeSox]

They found the shooter's wife dead at home. Domestic violence presages a whole lot of these mass shootings.

[caulfield12]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/18/opinions/gun...nion/index.html

Do we love our guns more than our children?

 

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/us/californi...ings/index.html

Mental health issues galore

 

Neal had been out of bail on an assault with a deadly weapon charge from January, officials said. Neal, 44, "was not law enforcement friendly" and authorities a number of times had come to his house after complaints that shots were fired from the property, Johnston said.

 

Neal's sister told CNN's Sara Sidner that he had struggled with mental health issues for at least 20 years.

 

"My mom spent a great deal of her time and nearly all her energy trying so hard to placate him," said Sheridan Orr, who was with her distraught mother in North Carolina.

 

Neal's mental state began a steep decline about a year ago, said Orr, adding the family had tried to get him help.

Before police shot him dead, Neal injured at least 10 others in a string of shootings that spanned at least seven sites in the small community of Rancho Tehama, west of Corning, police said. Those locations include a locked elementary school that the shooter fired into from the outside, injuring a boy.

 

The shootings started in Neal's neighborhood shortly before 8 a.m., where he killed a woman neighbor who had a restraining order against him, Johnston said. Neal had been arrested and charged in January on suspicion of assaulting her with a deadly weapon, he said.

Edited November 18, 2017 by caulfield12