Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:29 PM) Its in the Stossel video as evidence of Trump's mannerisms. I was replying to those who said they never saw Trump mock Cruz. They obviously did not watch the Stossel Video that you watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:29 PM) Its in the Stossel video as evidence of Trump's mannerisms. I felt like the mannerisms that he displayed for the reporter were a lot more dramatic than he displayed for cruise and the general he disagreed with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:30 PM) I would be curious to hear you outline what parts of the economic growth are due to Obama, and which are due to Trump, and why. I think they both get Credit. Obama did inherit a mess , but I think the growth expedited under Trump, but would not have been possible without what Obama fixed. I don't want to feel like appreciating what Obama did well, and what Trump is doing well is mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:36 PM) I felt like the mannerisms that he displayed for the reporter were a lot more dramatic than he displayed for cruise and the general he disagreed with. You already showed yourself by not watching the Stossel video in the first place. So OK, I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:41 PM) So, which screen name were you using when you were banned the first time? I was never banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:33 PM) Well I know you are smart enough to know the rabbit hole digs deeper than that. There are literally too many lies or deceptions on Trump to take anything to serious. Which is dangerous, because if he really is as bad as some of you make him out to be I will never listen to the media. It's kind of like the boy who cried wolf. If there is something wrong with Trump, it wont be the media or hollywood telling me. I know there are some not so great things about Trump, but I had to figure that out myself. Well I would always suggest you do your own research on anyone and not take someone else's word for things. Most of the "bad" (imo) things Trump has done, are right from his twitter, so you cant really blame that on the media or Hollywood, as that is directly from his mouth. He completely undermines separation of powers and he seems to have little or no interest in actually being "President." He doesnt care about conflicts of interest, he doesnt care about anything but himself. He constantly undermines our system of government, when he has little to no understanding how it actually works. You cant blame the media for Trump trying to give his kids/family jobs in the White House that they are not qualified for. These arent really partisan issues. This isnt what the media or Hollywood says, this is the only conclusion you can come to from reading his twitter feed. I have no problem with someone who disagrees on policy. You think immigrants are bad for the US? You think free trade is bad? Whatever, people can disagree. But I dont think you can reasonably look at how Trump acts and conclude that he is doing good for the US. At the end of the day, what bothers me the most is that he constantly degrades America and its citizens. That somehow America isnt great, when that just isnt true. America is great, but could still be better. /shrugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:40 PM) You already showed yourself by not watching the Stossel video in the first place. So OK, I guess? Only one person showing them self here, and it is not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:38 PM) I think they both get Credit. Obama did inherit a mess , but I think the growth expedited under Trump, but would not have been possible without what Obama fixed. I don't want to feel like appreciating what Obama did well, and what Trump is doing well is mutually exclusive. Like what and where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:45 PM) Well I would always suggest you do your own research on anyone and not take someone else's word for things. Most of the "bad" (imo) things Trump has done, are right from his twitter, so you cant really blame that on the media or Hollywood, as that is directly from his mouth. He completely undermines separation of powers and he seems to have little or no interest in actually being "President." He doesnt care about conflicts of interest, he doesnt care about anything but himself. He constantly undermines our system of government, when he has little to no understanding how it actually works. You cant blame the media for Trump trying to give his kids/family jobs in the White House that they are not qualified for. These arent really partisan issues. This isnt what the media or Hollywood says, this is the only conclusion you can come to from reading his twitter feed. I have no problem with someone who disagrees on policy. You think immigrants are bad for the US? You think free trade is bad? Whatever, people can disagree. But I dont think you can reasonably look at how Trump acts and conclude that he is doing good for the US. At the end of the day, what bothers me the most is that he constantly degrades America and its citizens. That somehow America isnt great, when that just isnt true. America is great, but could still be better. /shrugs I mean there is negative things on every president, not really a fan of either bush . I think Trump and Obama are/were way better than those two. I don't think Trump degrades America, how is it any different than when Michelle Obama said something along the lines of "This is the first time I was ever proud of my country?" It will probably come down to how you take the message. For someone who was foreclosed, lost their items in a storage locker auction and now works at home depot, "Make America Great Again" comes across the same way when Obama said "Change". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:48 PM) Only one person showing them self here, and it is not me You can have an opinion without making a claim. That's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:50 PM) Like what and where? The dow is up almost the same amount in 18 months, than it was in 8 years total with Obama. Do we think the Dow would be way past 20,000 if Obama were still in office? That's a different conversation I suppose. The same people who told me Trump mocked a reporter also claimed the market would sink. I would be curious to know what news sources y'all would recommend. I really don't have time to keep tabs on Trump every day, but at the same time I want some good non-partisan news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:45 PM) Ahh, so you've been reading this board since 2003-2004, but just decided to make your account in 2017, and are now posting? Got it. Nope. I guess there is only one other option by default, heh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:53 PM) I mean there is negative things on every president, not really a fan of either bush . I think Trump and Obama are/were way better than those two. I don't think Trump degrades America, how is it any different than when Michelle Obama said something along the lines of "This is the first time I was ever proud of my country?" It will probably come down to how you take the message. For someone who was foreclosed, lost their items in a storage locker auction and now works at home depot, "Make America Great Again" comes across the same way when Obama said "Change". I think that misses the main point on the post. Putting Jared and Ivanka in the White House is completely against all US norms. Attacking the judiciary repeatedly, pandering conspiracy theories about the FBI, etc. These are not the actions of a President. If he just deleted his twitter and acted Presidential, it would solve so many problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 04:00 PM) The dow is up almost the same amount in 18 months, than it was in 8 years total with Obama. Do we think the Dow would be way past 20,000 if Obama were still in office? That's a different conversation I suppose. The same people who told me Trump mocked a reporter also claimed the market would sink. I would be curious to know what news sources y'all would recommend. I really don't have time to keep tabs on Trump every day, but at the same time I want some good non-partisan news. I work in the markets (this is my 20th year in it) and have a degree in economics. I know the numbers better than probably anyone else on Soxtalk. Again, I am curious about what you think of what Trump has done to make this happen, not some garbage non sequitor about Trump mocking a reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 02:06 PM) Change FBI to CIA and you have JFK. Yes, Trump and JFK are eerily similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 04:06 PM) Change FBI to CIA and you have JFK. Youre going to have to refresh my recollection on this... Is it that he was upset with the CIA after Bay of Pigs? Because that seemingly is quite different, but maybe there is more. I never have really studied JFK so not someone Im too familiar with the reference. Edited April 10, 2018 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 04:03 PM) I work in the markets (this is my 20th year in it) and have a degree in economics. I know the numbers better than probably anyone else on Soxtalk. Again, I am curious about what you think of what Trump has done to make this happen, not some garbage non sequitor about Trump mocking a reporter. The stock market is a prediction of the future. People invest because they believe things will be good going forward. So a high stock market is a vote of faith in the current administration. If you want to say Obama set this up that's fine, but going forward is all Trump, good or bad. Trump's Economics Policy is not just based on his instincts alone; It is actually called "American School of Economics", the economic policies of Founding Fathers and Abraham Lincoln, which led the United States to the most prosperous state in the world during that time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_(economics) Here is a good article on Trump Boosting Business and Economic Growth http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/360...economic-growth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 04:19 PM) The stock market is a prediction of the future. People invest because they believe things will be good going forward. So a high stock market is a vote of faith in the current administration. If you want to say Obama set this up that's fine, but going forward is all Trump, good or bad. Trump's Economics Policy is not just based on his instincts alone; It is actually called "American School of Economics", the economic policies of Founding Fathers and Abraham Lincoln, which led the United States to the most prosperous state in the world during that time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_(economics) Here is a good article on Trump Boosting Business and Economic Growth http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/360...economic-growth You are telling me that Trump didn't do anything, but just that people believe in him? And past the stock market, what about the economy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 02:21 PM) You are telling me that Trump didn't do anything, but just that people believe in him? And past the stock market, what about the economy? This is getting good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 04:19 PM) The stock market is a prediction of the future. People invest because they believe things will be good going forward. So a high stock market is a vote of faith in the current administration. If you want to say Obama set this up that's fine, but going forward is all Trump, good or bad. Trump's Economics Policy is not just based on his instincts alone; It is actually called "American School of Economics", the economic policies of Founding Fathers and Abraham Lincoln, which led the United States to the most prosperous state in the world during that time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_(economics) Here is a good article on Trump Boosting Business and Economic Growth http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/360...economic-growth Personally I think Trump is holding the economy back. US economy should be booming even more. Really hard to prove, but you can see the negative impact he has on companies like Amazon when he attacks them for political reasons. Not to mention I personally believe hitching our economy to mercantilism is the equivalent of betting on a horse and buggy to beat a car in a race. Possible, but unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 02:19 PM) Here is a good article on Trump Boosting Business and Economic Growth http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/360...economic-growth Please do not confuse news articles with opinion pieces especially when earlier you went on a tirade about the media and deceitful news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 04:21 PM) You are telling me that Trump didn't do anything, but just that people believe in him? And past the stock market, what about the economy? UNEMPLOYMENT RATE Unemployment rate is down to 4.1%, the lowest it’s been since August 2000 http://archive.is/TqhjB The unemployment rate held steady for the 5th straight month (4.1%) - first time in 18 years http://archive.is/aq9kX Black unemployment rate hits ALL TIME low - 6.8% http://archive.is/bYDiw The Hispanic unemployment rate dropped to 4.7%, hits ALL TIME low http://archive.is/LAeem Unemployment hits record low in seven states http://archive.is/lfKsR Texas Jobless Rate Hits 40-Year Record Low of 3.9 Percent http://archive.is/R8sn9 The unemployment rate in manufacturing dropped to 2.6%, the lowest in US history http://archive.is/hUnl1 JOB NUMBERS Trump has added nearly 3 million US jobs since being elected http://archive.is/cdKhZ The number of Americans employed is at an all-time hight, topping 155 million http://archive.is/nRgGl Black employment and female employment both hit all-time highs in February http://archive.is/nRgGl The number of unemployed Americans is at a 10 year low - 6,801,000 http://archive.is/4KYyH US job openings have hit an ALL TIME high - 6 million+ http://archive.is/Urhfb Job-cut announcements in 2017 see lowest level since 1990 http://archive.is/7kQtJ February 2018’s labour force increase is the biggest since 2003 http://archive.is/Rmv37 November 2017 saw 40,000 new manufacturing jobs, the highest in US history http://archive.is/rcaOs STUDY: Trump tariffs may add 19k steel and aluminum jobs http://archive.is/5sovs FOOD STAMPS + WELFARE Jobless claims hit lowest level since 1969 http://archive.is/xQS4a Food Stamp Enrolment Drops by 2 Million in 2017 http://archive.is/VNHVT Food stamp program costs hit 7 year low http://archive.is/5X7Tj President Trump’s administration has decided to restore work requirements for welfare under the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program http://archive.is/A19qT WIC welfare participation hits 17-year low http://archive.is/IYi7Y West Virginia gives green light to work requirements for food stamps http://archive.is/H62Lv WAGES Wages jump to highest level since 2009 - up 2.9% http://archive.is/kZJ87 90% of workers likely to see more money in pay check next month thanks to Trump’s tax cuts http://archive.is/Xm9ZW The US Census Bureau has announced that the American median income is increasing for the first time since 2007 http://archive.is/3IWMd Average weekly pay checks increased by 3.1% over the last 12 months - first time it has exceeded 3% in 7 years http://archive.is/r0ogl Shortage of illegal labour has caused construction worker wages to increase by 30% in Texas http://archive.is/znIXZ MISC. Toyota, Mazda to build $1.6 billion plant in Alabama http://archive.is/Fjbih Fiat Chysler to relocate truck production from Mexico to Michigan http://archive.is/husht 13,000 jobs being created in WI because of Foxconn plant - largest job announcement in WI history http://archive.is/NN30y Foxconn announces that a SECOND plant is coming - Michigan http://archive.is/ePQWX US Steel CEO: We’re reopening an idled plant and bringing back 500 jobs due to Trump tariffs http://archive.is/f7qJv A week after the Trump administration unveiled tariffs of up to 30% on imports of solar panels, one of China’s biggest manufacturers announced that it plans to open a new plant in the US http://archive.is/2Q16K Getting rid of regulations that restrict coal miners - create more mining jobs - opened new coal mine http://archive.is/2XiJJ Pennsylvania coal company to open a SECOND coal mine http://archive.is/fK2LD Creating thousands of more jobs for immigration officers and border patrol http://archive.is/5ROux 1000s of jobs being created through pact with Saudi Arabia http://archive.is/dIkH3 Executive Order Expanding Apprenticeships in America http://archive.is/KHQrz STOCK MARKET The Dow (26,258), S&P 500 (2,838) and Nasdaq (7,418) composite rose to all-time highs on Monday http://archive.is/foWa3 Since the election, the DOW is up 34.9%, the NASDAQ is up 34%, and the S&P 500 is up 25.2% https://imgur.com/a/i3yEl Red-hot Dow closes above 26,000 for the first time http://archive.is/DHjyO DOW rises 5000 points in a year for the first time ever http://archive.is/atYC5 DOW closes at a record high for the 70th time this year (24,792), the most record closes in a calendar year http://archive.is/iW0kL Stocks close higher, post best weekly gain since 2013 http://archive.is/ixUaE GDP Economy to grow at 5.4% rate in Q1 of 2018 http://archive.is/yulsW GDP increased by 2.3 percent in 2017, up from a 1.5 percent increase in 2016 http://archive.is/7cIpp US second quarter GDP growth has been revised to 3.1% - fastest growth in more than two years http://archive.is/nXXeb U.S. Third-Quarter Growth Revised to Three-Year High of 3.3% http://archive.is/97TVR TAX CUTS Trump has signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, giving Americans $1.5 trillion in tax cuts and slashing the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% - 91% of middle-class Americans will receive a tax cut http://archive.is/b5z7T Trump wants a “phase 2” of tax cuts http://archive.is/rqhtu 265 Companies Announce Bonuses, Wage Hikes, 401(k) Match Increases Due to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act https://atr.org/list $2 trillion could be brought back to US after tax reform, according to a UN report http://archive.is/Cqggy Feds collect record taxes in first month under Trump’s tax cuts; runs surplus in January https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terenc...cut-run-surplus In response to Trump’s tax cuts, Apple announces $350 billion investment in the US economy, 20,000 new jobs http://archive.is/dw6Av Walmart will raise its starting wage rate for hourly employees in the U.S. to $11, expand maternity & parental leave benefits, and provide a one-time cash bonus for eligible employees of as much as $1,000 due to tax reform http://archive.is/HLJN9 The Walt Disney Co. to give more than 125,000 employees a one-time $1000 cash bonus and “make an initial investment of $50 million in a new and ongoing education program for hourly employees.” http://archive.is/NBU1i Ford Motor Co. will give more than 54,000 United Auto Workers hourly employees profit-sharing checks of about $7,500 this year http://archive.is/eo60Q Starbucks employees win pay raises, expanded benefits thanks to Trump’s tax plan http://archive.is/yUMjS Fedex announces $3.2 billion in wage increases, bonuses due to tax reform http://archive.is/Q5OdW ExxonMobil announced the company will invest $50 billion into the United States over the next 5 years, citing tax reform http://archive.is/9Cj7v Boeing will invest $300 million in the American economy, AT&T will invest $1 billion, and Comcast will invest over $50 billion in response to tax cuts https://imgur.com/a/ZrWek European CEOs go one by one to tell Trump they are investing billions back into the US http://archive.is/eHIrV Companies dump undocumented workers after gaining profits from tax cuts http://archive.is/DKZ4v Utilities cutting rates, cite benefits of Trump tax reform http://archive.is/yEMIY Patriots owner Robert Kraft building factory in North Carolina after tax cuts http://archive.is/GeEZI Presidential Executive Order on Identifying and Reducing Tax Regulatory Burdens http://archive.is/X2Tif More Economy According to the Federal Reserve, household wealth in America has reached a record high of $1.7 trillion - due to rising property values and financial gains http://archive.is/V7AC0 In Trump era, American corporations are seeing their best earnings in 13 years http://archive.is/KcZjc U.S. Economy Reaches Its Potential Output for First Time in Decade http://archive.is/NEWhM Fed raises rates, signals confidence in strengthening economy http://archive.is/yfePq Senate passes bipartisan bill to roll back Dodd-Frank http://archive.is/NBF1V Pulled out of the Paris Accord - save billions in taxpayer money and trillions in GDP, put American industries first by creating and maintaining millions of industrial jobs http://archive.is/3Pcr3 Buy American, Hire American executive order - restrict guest worker visas and require more agencies to buy more goods and services from American companies and workers http://archive.is/SPmkc Going through with building the Keystone and Dakota Pipelines - expanding energy infrastructure and creating 1000s of jobs http://archive.is/1L6ys US manufacturing records best year since 2004 http://archive.is/5IFem USA set to be world’s largest oil producer http://archive.is/RyMKt US reaches oil-output milestone months earlier than expected http://archive.is/nOZ6Q Gas prices at a 12-year low http://archive.is/Xdq12 US gained 700,000 millionaires in 2017 http://archive.is/HX4OD Retail sales are up 5.8% compared to last year http://archive.is/TMEgu Home sales have hit their best numbers in 10 years - up 17.5% http://archive.is/afseF US homebuilding permits soar to highest level since 2007 http://archive.is/r56xC TRADE President Trump institutes a 25% tariff on steel and a 10% tariff on aluminum - Canada and Mexico exempt at the moment in order to negotiate NAFTA http://archive.is/KECYq Trump orders $50 billion tariff hit on Chinese goods http://archive.is/S495l Pulled out of TPP http://archive.is/8jHzK Reworking NAFTA with Canada and Mexico in order to make better trade deals - might pull out http://archive.is/2Ewiq Trade deficit falling faster than expected http://archive.is/DoROR Exports at a 2.5-year high http://archive.is/Ulytn Signed an arms deal worth more than $350 billion and various other investment agreements with Saudi Arabia http://archive.is/dIkH3 Xi Jinping, Donald Trump oversee signing of US$253 billion in trade deals http://archive.is/LFKEU Trump administration approves $1 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia, including 6,500 missiles http://archive.is/b8GyZ Trump administration approves $42 million arms deal with Ukraine http://archive.is/1T987 Singapore Airlines agrees to buy $13.8 billion worth of Boeing jets http://archive.is/Bht3L Japan to buy at least 20 more F-35A stealth fighters from the USA http://archive.is/7LSTP Increased tariffs on Canadian lumber by 20% (worth $1 billion) http://archive.is/kIOXE Resuming trading natural gas and beef with China http://archive.is/9CEPP Trading coal and rice to China http://archive.is/nVbVb Negotiated new sugar deal with Mexico http://archive.is/sPLUi US pork exports going back to Argentina for the first time since 1992 http://archive.is/P43dU Trading energy with new countries in Europe (Poland, Lithuania) - end their reliance on Russian energy http://archive.is/9L9mH, http://archive.is/fpEyU Trading missiles to Poland to protect them from Russian aggression http://archive.is/0Cfl7 Oil exports at all time high http://archive.is/cp9ks Coal exports up 60% http://archive.is/4ONbf CONFIDENCE IN THE ECONOMY U.S. Consumer Confidence Reaches Highest Level Since 2000 http://archive.is/4tzLp Economic Optimism Index hits 13-year high, credit to tax cuts http://archive.is/FRthW Small business optimism jumps to highest since 1983 http://archive.is/bgL16 CEO confidence highest since 2014 http://archive.is/87U1E US Manufacturing Index at a 33-year high http://archive.is/3BSTP Manufacturer confidence at a 20-year high http://archive.is/QuuCN Home builder confidence at 12-year high http://archive.is/bErU1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 So again, what is Trump actually doing and responsible for? A mess of links tells me zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 04:36 PM) So again, what is Trump actually doing and responsible for? A mess of links tells me zero. Tells you how great of an economy he inherited because most economic changes take what 1-2 years minimum to see any impact? Interesting that in none of those links were anything about the last month, DOW going down due to trade war, Amazon going down due to unfounded attacks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxin2019 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 04:36 PM) So again, what is Trump actually doing and responsible for? A mess of links tells me zero. Debunk anything I linked. Everything I linked he is responsible for. That's why I linked it. The links are well organized for your bookmarking and viewing pleasure. It was my honor to provide this community with a little bit of numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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