oldsox Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/5/2018 at 4:19 PM, NorthSideSox72 said: Not sure Bust is the right word. He's never been healthy enough to pitch any significant number of innings. I guess I think of "bust" as a player who doesn't meet expectations on the field, so I'm not sure it counts if he's never on the damn field. Fortunately he was just a throw-in, 4th player in a deal. No big loss if he doesn't turn out. Diaz certainly wasn't a big deal to Boston. Sox gave them Sale, Boston gives up three players plus Diaz. I wish my memory were better. Less than two years ago, that trade was made, and I can't remember if Diaz was considered just a throw-in at the time, or did Hahn actually portray him to be a valid prospect, which he wasn't. Chris Freaking Sale should have returned more. Boston was loaded with valid prospects, and Hahn should not have settled for a throw-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, oldsox said: Diaz certainly wasn't a big deal to Boston. Sox gave them Sale, Boston gives up three players plus Diaz. I wish my memory were better. Less than two years ago, that trade was made, and I can't remember if Diaz was considered just a throw-in at the time, or did Hahn actually portray him to be a valid prospect, which he wasn't. Chris Freaking Sale should have returned more. Boston was loaded with valid prospects, and Hahn should not have settled for a throw-in. What on earth are you talking about? The return was literally the #1 prospect in baseball at the time (or 2 or 3 for some folks), and one of the top 2-3 pitching prospects in baseball at the time, and a borderline T100 outfielder, AND also a guy who throws 100 as a throw-in. The return for Sale was enormous. No one "settled for a throw-in". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said: What on earth are you talking about? The return was literally the #1 prospect in baseball at the time (or 2 or 3 for some folks), and one of the top 2-3 pitching prospects in baseball at the time, and a borderline T100 outfielder, AND also a guy who throws 100 as a throw-in. The return for Sale was enormous. No one "settled for a throw-in". This needs to be quoted, just so it can be seen again. Revisionist history isn't accurate here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 White Sox sign C Darrell Miller to a minor league deal. He just turned 25 and is only played in A-ball. What confuses me about his B-R page is that in 2017 rookie ball with the Royals after he got drafted he hit .376 with 5 HR, and a 25/25 K/BB ratio. Then he got traded to the Dodgers and got sent to A-ball where he hit .310/.365/.612 for an OPS of .977 in 15 games before he was released. He finished up his 2018 season in Indy ball with the Schaumburg team. Just a weird career path. Maybe the Dodgers just had no room for him, but having only had success so far, it's strange to think he had to go play for an Indy ball team halfway through the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: White Sox sign C Darrell Miller to a minor league deal. He just turned 25 and is only played in A-ball. What confuses me about his B-R page is that in 2017 rookie ball with the Royals after he got drafted he hit .376 with 5 HR, and a 25/25 K/BB ratio. Then he got traded to the Dodgers and got sent to A-ball where he hit .310/.365/.612 for an OPS of .977 in 15 games before he was released. He finished up his 2018 season in Indy ball with the Schaumburg team. Just a weird career path. Maybe the Dodgers just had no room for him, but having only had success so far, it's strange to think he had to go play for an Indy ball team halfway through the year. He was drafted in 2012, but didn't sign. Went to school 4 years, didn't get drafted again. Signed as UDFA in 2017 at 23, played only half time. And he was 23 in the PIO so the numbers need to be taken with a lot of salt. 2018 he was 24, playing as a bench guy. Basically, he's not a prospect, he's just an org soldier, and he's consistently played much older than average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 If his hitting stats are really that good, it probably means he is terrible behind the plate if he is still that low in the minors, and up until now, unemployed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 hours ago, NorthSideSox72 said: What on earth are you talking about? The return was literally the #1 prospect in baseball at the time (or 2 or 3 for some folks), and one of the top 2-3 pitching prospects in baseball at the time, and a borderline T100 outfielder, AND also a guy who throws 100 as a throw-in. The return for Sale was enormous. No one "settled for a throw-in". Northsider, I never complained about the top 3 guys in that trade, certainly not when the deal was made. You're the one who called Diaz a throw in. Sox Ace call him a bust. It's one thing to get a throw in as part of a minor trade, but not for CFS. You never answered my question. At the time of the trade, was Diaz portrayed by Hahn as a throw in, or a valid prospect? That's all I asked. Again, "Throw in" was your term, not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 hours ago, oldsox said: Northsider, I never complained about the top 3 guys in that trade, certainly not when the deal was made. You're the one who called Diaz a throw in. Sox Ace call him a bust. It's one thing to get a throw in as part of a minor trade, but not for CFS. You never answered my question. At the time of the trade, was Diaz portrayed by Hahn as a throw in, or a valid prospect? That's all I asked. Again, "Throw in" was your term, not mine. This is some weird circular logic. You were happy with the top 3 guys, but upset they also got a throw-in (aka lottery ticket) arm? Anyone who can throw triple digits and come even close to the strike zone is a prospect. He just isn't the prospect the other three are. How can you like the top 3 but be upset that they got one more, even if he's not great? You lost me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 9 hours ago, NorthSideSox72 said: He was drafted in 2012, but didn't sign. Went to school 4 years, didn't get drafted again. Signed as UDFA in 2017 at 23, played only half time. And he was 23 in the PIO so the numbers need to be taken with a lot of salt. 2018 he was 24, playing as a bench guy. Basically, he's not a prospect, he's just an org soldier, and he's consistently played much older than average. Definitely not implying that he's a prospect. Just surprised he was released after successful offensive seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 http://meadowparty.com/blog/2018/10/31/klawchat-10-31-18/ Mac: Do you think Spencer Adams has a legit shot to earn a spot in the White Sox rotation out of spring training? Keith Law: No, nor should he. He has marginal stuff and struck out only 11% of batters he faced in AAA. Brent : Did you get a chance to see CWS’s Burdi in the AFL? Any insight to how he’s look after TJ? Thanks. Keith Law: I did not but Eric Longenhagen did and said he looked like he did pre-TJ (which is good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: http://meadowparty.com/blog/2018/10/31/klawchat-10-31-18/ Mac: Do you think Spencer Adams has a legit shot to earn a spot in the White Sox rotation out of spring training? Keith Law: No, nor should he. He has marginal stuff and struck out only 11% of batters he faced in AAA. Brent : Did you get a chance to see CWS’s Burdi in the AFL? Any insight to how he’s look after TJ? Thanks. Keith Law: I did not but Eric Longenhagen did and said he looked like he did pre-TJ (which is good). Good to hear something positive about Burdi. I'm in full agreement with Law on Adams. He's just filler at this point until he starts to strike people out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: http://meadowparty.com/blog/2018/10/31/klawchat-10-31-18/ Mac: Do you think Spencer Adams has a legit shot to earn a spot in the White Sox rotation out of spring training? Keith Law: No, nor should he. He has marginal stuff and struck out only 11% of batters he faced in AAA. Brent : Did you get a chance to see CWS’s Burdi in the AFL? Any insight to how he’s look after TJ? Thanks. Keith Law: I did not but Eric Longenhagen did and said he looked like he did pre-TJ (which is good). That Burdi report is so heartening considering the last I heard on him was him sitting around 94. As for Adams, I don't really care one way or the other. If we have an extra spot, might as well try him out but I don't think anyone is saving a spot in the rotation for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 How much time is Adolfo expected to miss next year? Is DHing a possibility while he continues to rehab his arm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/minor-league-free-agents-2018/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 no where better to put this than a now - unpinned catch all thread. Former White Sox farmhand Ozney Guillen hired as rookie ball league manager by the Astros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: no where better to put this than a now - unpinned catch all thread. Former White Sox farmhand Ozney Guillen hired as rookie ball league manager by the Astros. Never was a White Sox farmhand. His father found the bonus the team was offering was embarrassing. He became an Independent League scrub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 10/31/2018 at 2:18 PM, DirtySox said: Good to hear something positive about Burdi. I'm in full agreement with Law on Adams. He's just filler at this point until he starts to strike people out. I think the Sox and every team in baseball are in agreement on Adams...if the Sox thought he could challenge for a spot in the rotation, they would have protected him; and if some other team thought so, they would have taken him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Looks like the Sox picked up another 2018 signing: Wilber Sanchez INF. He played on the 2017 Venezuelan 15u team, so he is 17 maximum. Its been hard to find much on him. He pitched in a game against team USA 15u and did pretty well (at least compared to how most do), but the prospect league he is a part of repeatedly said INF for him. This was the only video I could find of his swing, but there are a bunch of other posts with him on that EBPAcademy instagram. Easiest way to see them might be to search for him on twitter and look through their instagram linked tweets. I was also able to find a two game sample from a different prospect league in which he went 2-8, 1 HR, 2 BB, 0 K, 2 SB, 1 CS. View this post on Instagram La Familia EBP esta de fiesta, la tarde de ayer de manera oficial se concreto la firma de nuestro prospecto Wilber Sanchez "LA CHISPA" con la Organizacion de Grandes Ligas: Medias Blancas de Chicago, representado por el Supervisor de Venezuela Amador Arias. El mejor de los éxitos, que dios te siga bendiciendo y te guie hoy, mañana y siempre. A luchar por este sueño que no fue fácil pero lo logramos, se dio el primer paso. Con dios todo es posible amen! @sanchezwilber9190 #beisbol#baseball#firma#chicagowhitesox##ebpacademy#exito A post shared by EBPAcademy (@ebpacademy) on Feb 7, 2019 at 4:34am PST View this post on Instagram Wilber Sánchez INF 2018 A post shared by EBPAcademy (@ebpacademy) on Jan 30, 2018 at 4:55pm PST 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Kinda surprised Alex Call isn't in the CLE Top 30...mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/7/2019 at 9:24 PM, GenericUserName said: Looks like the Sox picked up another 2018 signing: Wilber Sanchez INF. He played on the 2017 Venezuelan 15u team, so he is 17 maximum. Its been hard to find much on him. He pitched in a game against team USA 15u and did pretty well (at least compared to how most do), but the prospect league he is a part of repeatedly said INF for him. This was the only video I could find of his swing, but there are a bunch of other posts with him on that EBPAcademy instagram. Easiest way to see them might be to search for him on twitter and look through their instagram linked tweets. I was also able to find a two game sample from a different prospect league in which he went 2-8, 1 HR, 2 BB, 0 K, 2 SB, 1 CS. Thanks! I'm going to quote and add this to the 2019 j2 thread edit: NVM! I assumed this was a rumord pickup for next year, misread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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