SCCWS Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The Oriole series was pretty much what we have seen all season. He goes 3-4 w a walk, 1-4 w 2KO and 0-5 w 3KO. Like a roller-coaster. Went over the 200 KO mark yesterday. Hopefully Stanton catches him. Yoan needs a fresh start in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I had a hunch it was like this, but the splits are a little unreal Moncada .203/.273/.322/.595 day games vs. .244/.329/.445/.774 night His numbers over the last 24 games are pretty solid .270/.337/.416/.753 with 25 strikeouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: I had a hunch it was like this, but the splits are a little unreal Moncada .203/.273/.322/.595 day games vs. .244/.329/.445/.774 night His numbers over the last 24 games are pretty solid .270/.337/.416/.753 with 25 strikeouts But it's September so it's meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Greg Hibbard said: I had a hunch it was like this, but the splits are a little unreal Moncada .203/.273/.322/.595 day games vs. .244/.329/.445/.774 night His numbers over the last 24 games are pretty solid .270/.337/.416/.753 with 25 strikeouts Maybe next season he should wear sun glasses similar to what Baez does then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinsettle Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Fangraphs had a good article a couple of years ago about Kyle schwarber. Prospects with major swing and miss issues on pitches in the zone don’t really get better with time. Moncada has major swing and miss issues. Definitely not what I had hoped for after the hype of the Sale trade. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba phillips Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Moncada's BA has been in the .220's continuously since July 28. He may cluster together a few hits over a few games but then he reverts to his old self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) He's probably been stuck within that band range of 690-710 OPS for most of the last 4-6 weeks as well. You can say the same of Yolmer and Anderson, although Tim's been 5-15 points higher on average than Moncada. Right now, sitting on an exact 700 ops with 204 strikeouts, 11 games left to go. Edited September 20, 2018 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 51 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: He's probably been stuck within that band range of 690-710 OPS for most of the last 4-6 weeks as well. You can say the same of Yolmer and Anderson, although Tim's been 5-15 points higher on average than Moncada. Right now, sitting on an exact 700 ops with 204 strikeouts, 11 games left to go. I feel like he's been around a 1.1 fWAR for 3 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Justinsettle said: Fangraphs had a good article a couple of years ago about Kyle schwarber. Prospects with major swing and miss issues on pitches in the zone don’t really get better with time. Moncada has major swing and miss issues. Definitely not what I had hoped for after the hype of the Sale trade. Kyle Schwarber is good now though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 5:06 PM, Justinsettle said: Fangraphs had a good article a couple of years ago about Kyle schwarber. Prospects with major swing and miss issues on pitches in the zone don’t really get better with time. Moncada has major swing and miss issues. Definitely not what I had hoped for after the hype of the Sale trade. Five posts? Slow day on the North Side forums? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 37 minutes ago, AustinIllini said: Five posts? Slow day on the North Side forums? It's Tom Longo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: It's Tom Longo. Just FYI, pretty sure that is a no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 You know how half of this thread is the same three people complaining about how Moncada is so much worse than Albies? At this moment, they have identical .310 OBPs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, Jose Abreu said: You know how half of this thread is the same three people complaining about how Moncada is so much worse than Albies? At this moment, they have identical .310 OBPs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reiks12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Not so drastic difference between his average and on base percentage, shows hes swinging at more pitches in the zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 12 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: SLG and OBP need to go up. That's only about an 8% BB rate with an ISO of .129. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 18 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: He left out a .415 BABIP. In the long run the BA will come down, but I hope the OBP and SLG stays or even goes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmb35 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) On 9/17/2018 at 12:54 PM, TaylorStSox said: Man, that rant is almost as bad as the guy who wouldn't count Joe Crede stats if we had a lead. Omg..the legend of Shoota lives on 😂! Us old heads remember. Edited September 22, 2018 by Chisoxmb35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 8/15/2018 at 5:41 PM, footlongcomiskeydog said: David Bote already has a higher WAR than Moncada this year and Bote has only played in 34 games! Quit living in the past with Moncada. His #1 prospect days are ancient history. This aged well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dominikk85 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 6:43 AM, Jose Abreu said: Kyle Schwarber is good now though Schwarber is a 35+ homer guy though. 30% Ks can work if you have a good walk rate (which moncada has) and plus power (which he has hinted at but not shown consistently). If moncada could become a 35+ homer hitter with 12% walks and a 250 BA he is essentially adam dunn (not the washed up one that played for the sox) which would be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 4 hours ago, dominik-keul@gmx.de said: Schwarber is a 35+ homer guy though. 30% Ks can work if you have a good walk rate (which moncada has) and plus power (which he has hinted at but not shown consistently). If moncada could become a 35+ homer hitter with 12% walks and a 250 BA he is essentially adam dunn (not the washed up one that played for the sox) which would be fine. Understand your point but Yoan also has speed and plays an average defense in the infield. Unfortunately the #1 prospect and the coming of another Robinson Cano set too high expectations. Hopefully he becomes an above average 2nd baseman with a ceiling of still being a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Part of Moncada's recent change has been effectively eliminating — for the time being — his problem with making contact with pitches in the zone. Note that he hasn't improved his contact rate by just taking more pitches in the zone. His contact rate has gone up along with this swing rate and pitches in the zone. As of right now, he's having the best 15-game run of in-zone contact of his career. Over that span, he's made contact at a rate well above league average. We'll see if he can keep it up. The flip side is that we can see his terrible run in late July/early August was driven in part by a shocking drop in his contact rate at that time. You have to wonder what was going on physically/mentally during that period of about 3 weeks when he struck out in nearly half of his plate appearances. Note also that Moncada has been making more contact on pitches outside the zone while retaining his elite selectivity on those pitches: He hasn't changed overnight, but these are fairly positive trends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 How would everyone feel about a Jose Valentin comp for Moncada? I can kinda see his career going that way. I don’t see the swing and miss issues disappearing for him, but I think it’s very reasonable to think the power/hr #’s jump up as he gets older. If he stays at 2B and plays the position above average I’d be fine with it, although clearly not what we all hoped for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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