poppysox Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 hours ago, ron883 said: Just wondering, why did you hate him so much? He balled out for a couple seasons. Every fan has his own eye test. Why do you want to use the eye test of someone else. I think this is particularly true of framing statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Up to 2.2 fWAR, slashing .294/.348/.508/.856 with a 129 wRC+, and an xwOBA/wOBA ratio that suggests it's not a fluke. A small part of me misses arguing with people who thought he was a bust after one average season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Up to 2.2 fWAR, slashing .294/.348/.508/.856 with a 129 wRC+, and an xwOBA/wOBA ratio that suggests it's not a fluke. A small part of me misses arguing with people who thought he was a bust after one average season. One by one all of the prospects are starting come into their own. This has been a good year for development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Ah, I remember this thread. Good times. Yoan is developing into a stud. When Kopech comes back next year - (with how Giolito is pitching) the Eaton and Sale trades will both be complete as unanimous successes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/6/2019 at 11:29 AM, Eloy Jiménez said: Agreed with a couple of things to add. I think you can pay McCann nicely and shore up C for a short while. While we don't have one in the majors yet, 2B is probably Nick Madrigal's at some point. He could bust but it's too early to tell. RF is the tricky one. If Eloy has to be in the outfield, it will be hard to hide poor defense in the outfield. McCann should be a priority. In spite of what some say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Nice to see him having a very solid season. Augers well for the future. Regarding Rios who actually wasn't a bad player but remember onemore than one occasion Ozzie pulled him out of a game for not hustling. That put him on the shit list for many Sox fans (and I can't blame them for that.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 53 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Up to 2.2 fWAR, slashing .294/.348/.508/.856 with a 129 wRC+, and an xwOBA/wOBA ratio that suggests it's not a fluke. A small part of me misses arguing with people who thought he was a bust after one average season. He’s already surpassed his fWAR total from last season and this season isn’t even yet half way complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Yoan Manuel Moncada Olivera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, pcq said: McCann should be a priority. In spite of what some say. Why? He is under control for next year. He has never hit like this before. If you extend him now, you may be throwing away money. If he comes back next year and hits like he did in Detroit, you may not want him long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Yoan is on pace for about 35 doubles, 35 home runs and 98 RBI's. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Yoan is on pace for about 35 doubles, 35 home runs and 98 RBI's. 28th in fWAR now for all qualified hitters at 2.1. A tick behind Acuna Jr who has 2.2. The talent at 3B in MLB right now is pretty crazy. Moncada is 28th in MLB in fWAR but is 10th among 3B! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: 28th in fWAR now for all qualified hitters at 2.1. A tick behind Acuna Jr who has 2.2. The talent at 3B in MLB right now is pretty crazy. Moncada is 28th in MLB in fWAR but is 10th among 3B! Wasting his bat at 3B IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, ron883 said: Wasting his bat at 3B IMO I don’t understand this take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, ron883 said: Wasting his bat at 3B IMO Perhaps, but the Sox haven't exactly been able to produce 5 WAR 3B either. If Madrigal does turn out to be a solid regular and Moncada keeps up the glovework at 3B then things will work out nicely for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: I don’t understand this take. He may mean putting him at second makes him elite and then sign another 3B like Rendon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 16 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Yoan Manuel Moncada Olivera Manuel Olivera doesn't have the same ring to it. Sounds like a bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Just now, SonofaRoache said: He may mean putting him at second makes him elite and then sign another 3B like Rendon. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Perhaps, but the Sox haven't exactly been able to produce 5 WAR 3B either. If Madrigal does turn out to be a solid regular and Moncada keeps up the glovework at 3B then things will work out nicely for once. It'll definitely make the Sox better longterm. I get it, Moncada is probably all star bound (for many years) putting up these numbers at 2B. I think most of us knew though that this was going to happen as 3B is much, much deeper with elite players in baseball. But if Madrigal is as good as he is projected to be (no jokes @fathom lol) then it's beneficial for our team in the long run. And this is not even accounting for Moncada's upside down the road too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, SoxAce said: It'll definitely make the Sox better longterm. I get it, Moncada is probably all star bound (for many years) putting up these numbers at 2B. I think most of us knew though that this was going to happen as 3B is much, much deeper with elite players in baseball. But if Madrigal is as good as he is projected to be (no jokes @fathom lol) then it's beneficial for our team in the long run. And this is not even accounting for Moncada's upside down the road too. My preference is elite Yoan at second, elite Rendon at third, and trade Madrigal in a package for a TOR arm on a non contending team that is selling. Even if Madrigal is an all star, we won't feel bad having Moncada, Rendon, and a TOR arm. Edited June 10, 2019 by SonofaRoache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 5 hours ago, ron883 said: Wasting his bat at 3B IMO Long term it's where he helps this team the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 3 hours ago, SonofaRoache said: My preference is elite Yoan at second, elite Rendon at third, and trade Madrigal in a package for a TOR arm on a non contending team that is selling. Even if Madrigal is an all star, we won't feel bad having Moncada, Rendon, and a TOR arm. I want Madrigal on this team for the foreseeable future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Yoan is the best and most important player in the organization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 It surprises me that anyone would think the Sox will land an elite free agent and would develop Moncada based on that. This is where the Sox should be maximizing the in house potential, which it seems to me they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, Jake said: Yoan is the best and most important player in the organization. I see where you are coming from but would need to see Robert for a period of time before making this proclamation. Giolito, Kopech and Cease are pretty darn important as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Any update on the injury today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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