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And your posts are typically the length of novel and do nothing except bash the WWE...and yet again, you continue to watch and continue to trash it.

If I genuinely thought that a TV show or a team completed sucked and "failed" repeatedly and was "super weak sauce" for months on end, I'd stop watching.

Your time must be extremely valuable.

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6 hours ago, soxfan49 said:

And your posts are typically the length of novel and do nothing except bash the WWE...and yet again, you continue to watch and continue to trash it.

If I genuinely thought that a TV show or a team completed sucked and "failed" repeatedly and was "super weak sauce" for months on end, I'd stop watching.

Your time must be extremely valuable.

You’d think he’d be grateful someone finally responded to him. Ha

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I've been enjoying Raw a little bit more as of late..

 

 It's nice to have a strong heel commish/general manager that is also active in the ring (unlike Angle/Foley)... I think Corbin is ideal for the spot. As long as he isn't toyed with by Stephanie, he's pure gold! Great idea to have Bliss head off the female division as well.

Ambrose has been hot fire recently and Rollins is pretty awesome as well. 

Drew Mc. is a f***ing beast and is quite awesome. I like the focus on Finn and Elias as well.

Tag division still is shit, but at least they got some story going with AOP and Gable/Roode. That's progress. 

Women's division isn't nowhere near as good as SD, but Rousey is always a sight to see... just wish they'd push Bayley/Banks.

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9 hours ago, fathom said:

Raw is BARELY watchable.  Renee Young as commentator is insulting to us fans.  

I usually just DVR Raw and read about it. If anything interesting happens, I'll go back to watch.

The little I saw of last night, I noticed a LOT of empty seats. Like A LOT. Outside of Ronda, they have star problem on Mondays. 

And I don't get their fascination with 3 person commentary. It's too much.

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Looking at this Sundays TLC card I am actually really excited.

 

Note: December for WWE is historically the worst month for 'things to happen.' It's been said that WWE should consider giving the superstars an offseason in December.

With that being said, The TLC PPV has nice matchs:

 

Bryan vs. AJ: really excited for this heel vs. face showdown, should be a hell of a match.
TLC 3-way Asuka/Lynch/Charlotte: Hottest thing going on right now in WWE. SUPER excited for this. I think Asuka has a chance to win this so Lynch/Charlotte can move on towards RR for Ronda.
Corbin vs. Strowman: If the match happens, I'm excited due to the outcomes of the match. What shit will they pull here?
Balor vs. Mcintyre (sp): Ok, I like both stars so it should be a nice mid card match.
Ronda vs. Nia: Hate nia, but any Rousey match has buzz. We already know the outcome here, but will be worth watching just for Ronda.
Rollins vs. Ambrose: Really excited with how they've built it up. Wonder how this will go down... gotta imagine there are more matches in the future here so maybe some sort of trickery happening.
Bar vs. Usos vs. New Day: Seen 10000 times but they always put on a good match.
Natayla vs. Riot: Probably a pre-show match, but it's a tables match so that's cool.
Elias vs. Lashley Ladder Match: Weird match, I'm expecting it to suck, but any time there's a ladder involved something cool might happen.
MMC finals: The competitors in the end are very weird and don't have many implications for the #30 spot in the RR. I guess I hope Bayley wins, but she shouldn't be #30, she should be an underdog in the RR. Having her come out #30 only to lose looks silly for faces.

 

The only downside is the stupid stipulations they do with these PPVs. A ladder match should feel 'special' but instead we get a TLC ppv filled with ladders and tables matches that don't always fit the feud. It feels more like their like 'hell we got the TLC ppv coming up, let's make all these matches TLC" instead of it naturally making the feud better. 

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Per usual, shit storytelling hurts the overall event, but WWE TLC 2018 has a special card, I think! Some predictions:

 

  • WWE Championship: (C) Daniel Bryan vs. AJ Styles
    Going with Daniel Bryan winning via heel cheap shot.
    EXPECTATION: High. Really looking forward to this. I hope they don't let me down.
  • SmackDown Women’s Championship – Triple Threat TLC Match: (C) Becky Lynch vs. Asuka vs. Charlotte Flair
    Going with Asuka as they decide to throw the curve here.
    EXPECTATION: Extremely high. This is perhaps the match I've most looked forward to all year. Love all three competitors AND it's a TLC match. 
  • Raw Women’s Championship: (C) Ronda Rousey vs. Nia Jax
    Rousey.
    EXPECTATION: Absolute shit, but it's Rousey, so it's kinda cool.
  • Intercontinental Championship: (C) Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose
    I'm going Ambrose here with heel tactics.
    EXPECTATION: Love Ambrose's heel turn. Love Rollins as a face. Hope this delivers, it's too bad they had to rush this storyline, but I think it's been delivering, so expectations: HIGH
  • Chairs Match: Rey Mysterio vs. Randy Orton
    Meh. Hate seeing two old guys fight. There's no reason for this. Have them fight with the up and comers. Going with Mysterio, I guess.
    EXPECTATION: Boring, dud.
  • Tables, Ladders and Chairs Match: Braun Strowman vs. Baron Corbin
    I hear Strowman is still hurt. I'm expecting him to show up and squash Corbin, which would be a shame.
    EXPECTATION: Unfortunately, very low. I was initially looking forward to this one, but since Strowman isn't ready to go, they can't do much here. I would have loved the heel GM to do everything in his power to screw over Strowman. They are going to squash this match, my guess.
  • Finn Balor vs. Drew McIntyre
    McIntyre is winning this for his massive push.
    EXPECTATION: Love both wrestlers, but it's hard to get high expectations for a match that doesn't really have a story or feel to it. Middle level expectation.
  • Ladder Match: Elias vs. Bobby Lashley
    Lashley is winning this
    EXPECTATION: Meh. Bobby Lashley might be the most boring wrestler on Earth. Elias as a face? Meh. 
  • SmackDown Tag Team Championship – Triple Threat Match: (C) The Bar vs. The New Day vs. The Usos
    The Bar wins
    EXPECTATION: They always deliver good matches, but I've seen it 6000 times now. So middle ground.
  • Tables Match: Natalya vs. Ruby Riott
    Lol, Riot wins this
    EXPECTATION: Trash. Why is this on the PPV while Bayley/Sasha are snubbed.
  • Cruiserweight Championship: (C)Buddy Murphy vs. Cedric Alexander
    Don't care, but match should be good, always enjoy watching the cruiserweights. 
  • Mixed Match Challenge Finals: Jinder Mahal and Alicia Fox vs. R-Truth and Carmella
    Lol this is dogshit. I'm guessing Jinder and Fox win this as they are the better #30 candidates in the Rumble. R-Truth shouldn't even be in the Rumble. 

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I know someone here just watches WWE so he can complain but Ring of Honor Final Battle last night was fun and I'm not really a ROH fan. Hangman Page vs Jeff Cobb stole the show.

Wrestle Kingdom coming up as well.

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1 hour ago, Brian said:

I know someone here just watches WWE so he can complain but Ring of Honor Final Battle last night was fun and I'm not really a ROH fan. Hangman Page vs Jeff Cobb stole the show.

Wrestle Kingdom coming up as well.

I got rid of cable but still have an antenna. Its been nice for watching Ring of Honor the last month or so for the first time. I still much prefer wwe but still enjoy it.

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28 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

I got rid of cable but still have an antenna. Its been nice for watching Ring of Honor the last month or so for the first time. I still much prefer wwe but still enjoy it.

I’ll put the weekly show on from the fite app on my roku sometimes. Wonder how they’ll be with Elite gone now.

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So far TLC has been dull but all the great matches are in the last half.

Three way tag match was great wrestling-wise, but couldn't give a fuck since I've seen these three teams battle for hte past 2+ years.

MMC match sucked as predicted.

Rey/Orton, Finn/Drew, and Ruby/Natayla all were just *boring*. I'm not sure who cares about Orton, Rey, Ruby, Natayla anymore and there was no reason to care about Finn/Drew since they gave away the true PPV match (Dolph vs. Drew) on raw now... twice.

The cruiserweight match and Elias/Bobby match were all OK, meh. 

So far, it's a better PPV then the shit they've been putting out in the last few PPV's, but hopeful that these last few matches end up well. 

 

Oh yeah. almost forgot -- The Corbin/Strowman match went as I feared. It was a complete squash. sure, it was nice to see the gang gang up on the vile GM... but meh would have been a cool match if the heel had more heel control but ended up losing to Strowmans abilities. 

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Charlotte is insane. She's going to be sore tomorrow. Thought she was knocked out after that table spot from Asuka.

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Charlotte is the best women's wrestler of all time. Has the best matches, the best resume, and is the total package. She IS the women's revolution in the WWE.

McMahons message on raw: We have a new era (named WWE Forever apparently) and they want things to be 'fresh.'

 

I got goosebumps listening to their promo as it was finally some sort of truth. However, it's all bull shit. We don't need new faces or new matches we desperately need BOOKING and consistent storylines. That's it! The wrestling is often fantastic, it's the booking that is constantly dog shit! 

I'm not betting things change here, unfortunately. 

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