CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Predicting the Sox are 28 games below .500 by 6/20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Sox end the week 17 under .500 and with the worst winning pct at .302. Royals and Orioles are 18 under .500 and winning pct .304. Mon- Cashner vs Santiago Tue- Gausman vs Shields Wed- Cobb vs TBA (Covey?) Thu- Bundy vs Giolito  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 That would be a pace for 49-113. Just don't see that happening with Rodon, Lopez and (a hopefully improving) Giolito...along with reinforcements in JImenez, Kopech, Cordell AND Avi (actually hitting at the end of JUNE), etc. The outfield production with Thompson, Avi, Engel and Delmonico has been historically bad....so any slippage from Moncada/Davidson/Lopez should be balanced out somewhere else on the roster. It also feels like the bullpen is more or less sorted out now with Jones, Rondon, Fry and Soria (6th/7th only). Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 That could be a valuable loss come the end of the season. KC might be a pest, as they are getting destroyed by non-AL central teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 idk where to put this, but perspective for everyone with an athletic subscription: https://theathletic.com/353112/2018/05/14/gammons-rebuilding-can-be-a-painful-process-something-the-white-sox-and-other-teams-know-too-well/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Sox have 16 wins. Baltimore and KC are still one win better (worse?) with 17 wins for the race for worst record in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Sox finish the week with the worst winning percentage. Bobby. Witt. June-Yah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Baltimore is 17-36 with Machado. They will lap the field in the race to the first pick once they trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Baltimore is 17-36 with Machado. They will lap the field in the race to the first pick once they trade him. Sox need to trade Abreu and Shields, and not bring up Eloy or Kopech until next mid-April. But seriously, there's a handful of terrible teams that will finish in the bottom 5- Sox, Royals, Orioles, Reds, Marlins. These teams are just outmatched. Now that the Rays have given up, maybe the Orioles beat them some, and the pitchers they thought would be serviceable actually start doing that. If the Sox go 58-104 and don't pick first, it's not like it's something to complain that they didn't lose enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Yeah, I think Baltimore ends up #1, because Machado will be gone & Jimenez and Kopech will be up. The only way the Sox have a chance to finish with the #1 pick is if they trade Abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 Still don't see any way that Jimenez is up before September...and, at that point, they might as well wait until his cutoff point in early 2019. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Don't sleep on the Royals. Moose, Herrera, possibly Duffy(if he can pitch well enough to be wanted...), Perez... They could get really bad depending on who they trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 2 hours ago, turnin' two said: Don't sleep on the Royals. Moose, Herrera, possibly Duffy(if he can pitch well enough to be wanted...), Perez... They could get really bad depending on who they trade. Hard to imagine trading Sal Perez at anything less than peak value...and, if they deal Duffy, they're still stuck with bad contracts for the likes of Alex Gordon and Ian Kennedy, so there's no digging out of this mess anytime soon. Soler actually has some value now...and I'm pretty sure two more years of control at least. Merrifield would be another. But that's a complete teardown, like the White Sox are doing. Trading Perez, Duffy, Moustakas, Herrera, Soler and Merrifield still isn't going to bring back nearly the return the Sox got back in return for their Big 3, unfortunately for the Royals.  It's MORE likely they move Moustakas and Herrera and continue trying to supplement the "core" of remaining guys I already mentioned.  Rock and a hard place, for sure.  Of course, they have a huge bounty of high draft picks and pool compensation dollars available this June, but that's not a short-term solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 13 hours ago, soxfan49 said: Yeah, I think Baltimore ends up #1, because Machado will be gone & Jimenez and Kopech will be up. The only way the Sox have a chance to finish with the #1 pick is if they trade Abreu. I also think Duquette and Buck are both gone in Baltimore before the season ends. As many train wrecks as there are in MLB right now, that situation is going to wind up the biggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 21 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Baltimore is 17-36 with Machado. They will lap the field in the race to the first pick once they trade him. Which is the point I've been making in the offseason. Machado is having an MVP caliber season better then anyone really ever anticipated (though he is a FA so you have to wonder) yet the Orioles are still god awful. There isn't going to be one player who is going to come in and fix the sox. This has to be a multi year rebuild the cubs and Astros took three and four years respectively. We are in year two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Is there an actual #1 player next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: Is there an actual #1 player next year? Bobby Witt Jr. seems to be the consensus #1 but so much changes in a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 4 hours ago, soxfan49 said: Bobby Witt Jr. seems to be the consensus #1 but so much changes in a year Because he can run fast and scouts love his defense. This is what people were saying about Turang last year when he was getting 1-1 buzz. Maybe this kid's bat will fare better. I think Adley Rutschman is much more likely to be in that conversation on this date next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 At least they are consistent. They started out 8-18, and have been 8-18 since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: At least they are consistent. They started out 8-18, and have been 8-18 since. Assuming they lose today, they'll- 2 months into the year- still be on pace to win 47-48 games. If that doesn't get them to the #1 pick, it'll be a really bad year for the MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: At least they are consistent. They started out 8-18, and have been 8-18 since. Also 8-18 at home and 8-18 on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Minnesota's going to be in danger of losing touch with the Indians....5.5 GB very quickly (thanks White Sox!) Â Baltimore -22 (but White Sox still have lowest overall winning percentage due to fewer games played) White Sox -21Â Â (0.5 GB) Cincinnati -17Â (2.5 GB) Kansas City -16Â (3.0 GB) Miami -15Â (3.5 GB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 12 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Minnesota's going to be in danger of losing touch with the Indians....5.5 GB very quickly (thanks White Sox!)  Baltimore -22 (but White Sox still have lowest overall winning percentage due to fewer games played) White Sox -21  (0.5 GB) Cincinnati -17 (2.5 GB) Kansas City -16 (3.0 GB) Miami -15 (3.5 GB) I always found this to be the best and easiest way to keep track. IMO, the White Sox are up a game for the #1 pick right now, because the team with the fewest wins at year end will get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Dam8610 said: I always found this to be the best and easiest way to keep track. IMO, the White Sox are up a game for the #1 pick right now, because the team with the fewest wins at year end will get it. Personally I still like the loss column, but same basic idea. Once you've lost a game, you can't give back the loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 First 54-games: 1. Sox 17-37 2. Bal 17-37 3. KC 18-36 4. Cin 19-35 5. Mia 20-34 6. SD 22-32 7. Tex 22-32 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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