flavum Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This mentality makes no sense to me. Why do you care about beating the Cubs? They aren't rivals and they're definitely going to the playoffs. Losing to the Cubs is the best thing for the long-term future of the Sox. It's mind boggling that I continue to see this sentiment. You must not be reading correctly. I want the Cubs to win because it is better for the Sox. I’m just not going to watch and want the Cubs to win- because fuck them and their fucking fans. If I wanted the Sox to win and screw the draft pick, then I’d be rooting for what’s worse for the Sox...and that’s not what I’m doing. Also, who fucking cares? It’s just baseball and it doesn’t matter who or what fans want this weekend. It’s not going to change the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This mentality makes no sense to me. Why do you care about beating the Cubs? They aren't rivals and they're definitely going to the playoffs. Losing to the Cubs is the best thing for the long-term future of the Sox. It's mind boggling that I continue to see this sentiment. But what you want makes absolutely no difference to the outcome of the game. Why not root for the Sox, enjoy if they win and if they lose, take solace in the draft pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I didn't mean to quote flavum. I messed up. I was referring to Zisk's post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I didn't mean to quote flavum. I messed up. I was referring to Zisk's post. Gotcha. I have no problem with Sox fans rooting for Sox wins no matter what. Some people don't think that deeply about this stuff, and that's ok too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) Quite frankly, I wish there was a way to do a Draft Lottery that wouldn't put as much on the line with September game outcomes. Like, I wouldn't mind it if teams weren't allowed to have the 1st overall pick twice in a 5-year period, or top 3 picks in back-to-back years...stuff like that. I like that the Sox are all-in on a rebuild, but the MLB fan in me wants rules that discourage it because it's better for the game. Edited September 22, 2018 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 3. Sox 61-93 (Sox magic number) 4. Mia 61-93 (8) 5. SD 62-93 (7) 6. Det 63-92 (7) Pirates elimination number is 2. When they’re done, you might as well add a loss to the Marlins record. Edited September 23, 2018 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 11 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This mentality makes no sense to me. Why do you care about beating the Cubs? They aren't rivals and they're definitely going to the playoffs. Losing to the Cubs is the best thing for the long-term future of the Sox. It's mind boggling that I continue to see this sentiment. I don't understand this attitude. It's fine to want the draft pick more, but they ARE rivals. To deny that is to be BLIND abt the way life is in Chicago. Fuck the North Side and fuck their baseball team. I HATE them - if you don't get this, there's any number of Chicago history books out there to explain it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 8 hours ago, longshot7 said: I don't understand this attitude. It's fine to want the draft pick more, but they ARE rivals. To deny that is to be BLIND abt the way life is in Chicago. Fuck the North Side and fuck their baseball team. I HATE them - if you don't get this, there's any number of Chicago history books out there to explain it. Same here, Longshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 To me the future of the White Sox is most important and not the petty spite of Cub fans. To me anything else is being more of a Cub hater than a Sox fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 14 hours ago, longshot7 said: I don't understand this attitude. It's fine to want the draft pick more, but they ARE rivals. To deny that is to be BLIND abt the way life is in Chicago. Fuck the North Side and fuck their baseball team. I HATE them - if you don't get this, there's any number of Chicago history books out there to explain it. I agree with this, the happy ground is cheering for the Sox to win but being able to understand a loss is OK too. On the flip side what someone wants doesn't matter to the actual outcome of the game, so this discussion is just pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I trust our FO has a plan in place to draft the best player at 6 so we can smash the cubs and ruin their fans’ season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) Padres are getting killed. So with one week left... 3. Sox 61-94 (Sox magic number) 4. SD 62-94 (6) 5. Mia 62-93 (6) 6. Det 63-93 (6) Edited September 24, 2018 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Just keep losing boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I’ve jotted down the Sox draft position at the end of each Sunday since May 6th: 3rd 1st for 3 weeks 2nd 4th 3rd for 10 weeks 4th 6th 3rd 4th 3rd We’ve earned 3rd. Go 2-5 this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 The Marlins would lose the tiebreaker to all of the Sox, Tigers, and Padres. It’s possible they could jump 3 spots by not playing that last make-up game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Baker said: The Marlins would lose the tiebreaker to all of the Sox, Tigers, and Padres. It’s possible they could jump 3 spots by not playing that last make-up game. Yep. Like I said, as soon as MLB cancels that game, just add a loss to the Marlins record, because it’s the same thing as not playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1-6, clinches 3rd spot 2-5, very likely 3rd spot 3-4 , 50/50 3rd spot 4-3, probably 6th. Tigers still worry me the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Sox- 3 vs Cle, 4 at Min SD- 3 at SF, 3 vs Arz Mia- 3 at Was, 3 at NYM, (1 at Pit) Det- 3 at Min, 3 at Mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Plain and simple...hope the Sox lose 4, and everyone else wins 2. If that happens, 3rd pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba phillips Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, flavum said: Plain and simple...hope the Sox lose 4, and everyone else wins 2. If that happens, 3rd pick. Sox can lose 5 and still avoid 100 losses (my personal goal for the team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 hours ago, flavum said: Yep. Like I said, as soon as MLB cancels that game, just add a loss to the Marlins record, because it’s the same thing as not playing. How do you figure that? In this scenario wouldn't the Sox get the higher pick? Sox 62-100 Miami 62-99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Leonard Zelig said: How do you figure that? In this scenario wouldn't the Sox get the higher pick? Sox 62-100 Miami 62-99 Yes, the Marlins don’t hold the tiebreaker with the Sox, Tigers, or Padres, so them not playing the last game can only help them, not hurt them. So adding a loss with your scenario doesn’t do anything to the order, but you can. But if it ends up Sox 62-100/ Marlins 61-100, Miami would have a lower winning percentage, and wouldn’t have to play to possibly get the win and knock them down the draft order. So assume the loss there, and they are 61-101. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba phillips Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 13 hours ago, bubba phillips said: Sox can lose 5 and still avoid 100 losses (my personal goal for the team). Five losses and 2 rainout cancellations will also work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 8 hours ago, flavum said: Yes, the Marlins don’t hold the tiebreaker with the Sox, Tigers, or Padres, so them not playing the last game can only help them, not hurt them. So adding a loss with your scenario doesn’t do anything to the order, but you can. But if it ends up Sox 62-100/ Marlins 61-100, Miami would have a lower winning percentage, and wouldn’t have to play to possibly get the win and knock them down the draft order. So assume the loss there, and they are 61-101. Yeah, I see, I misread the earlier posts and thought Miami had the tie breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 MLB hasn’t cancelled the Marlins-Pirates next Monday yet. Wonder if they’re still considering playing it. And how about this...Ivan Nova could possibly start that game which would earn him 750k for his 30th start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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