reiks12 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 coopers no BS attitude might do well for harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 This org. is a sanctuary for washed up veterans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Looks like some combination of Giants, Mariners (maybe), O's (maybe), Reds (speculated) and White Sox...Rangers seem to have lost interest, according to reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 He is the right handed version of John Danks.. But he was good in 2015. And he has little control if a miracle happens and he is fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 If he had a season more of control and you could flip him in the off-season or next year, sure. But I would not be disappointed if they don't trade for him (trade is likely with enough interest). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: He is the right handed version of John Danks.. But he was good in 2015. And he has little control if a miracle happens and he is fixed. Nah, Jeremy Bonderman is the comp. I don’t think Danks had thoracic outlet syndrome nor did he have TJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Meh. I guess I get it, but there is zero time to fix him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 He's toxic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: He's toxic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/mickey-callaway-perfect-person-fix-matt-harvey-article-1.3946339 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/mickey-callaway-perfect-person-fix-matt-harvey-article-1.3946339 What would we even be willing to surrender to trade for Matt Harvey hypothetically? He was pretty brutal this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I Just now, steveno89 said: What would we even be willing to surrender to trade for Matt Harvey hypothetically? He was pretty brutal this season. Fernando Tatis III 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I Fernando Tatis III I cringe every time I see that name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 18 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: I am not necessarily campaigning for the Sox to pick up Harvey, but the above reason certainly shouldn't be a determining factor. This group may be tight-nit, but they also aren't very good at baseball. Harvey in his final year of control doesn't do much for me (if he was controlled beyond this year, it may be worth the minimal risk), but not taking a chance to improve the club because everyone likes eachother is no bueno. This year was never about competing, but I expected to at least be a halfways decent team (low to mid 70s wins). Some of these guys are going to need to learn to win at the major league level at some point. It looking like that won't be happening until 2019. You're right...it shouldn't matter if the guys like each other, but I'm not saying it matters. I'm pointing out more along the lines of the culture being good. It's difficult to create a good culture that is focused on learning and development. Throwing in a guy who has a poor attitude and has struggled with alcohol issues isn't the best influence on a group of young players who are learning to play the game the right way. They might love him...but at this point, that type of signing probably isn't the best now that the ship is finally moving in the right direction after 12 years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, FT35 said: You're right...it shouldn't matter if the guys like each other, but I'm not saying it matters. I'm pointing out more along the lines of the culture being good. It's difficult to create a good culture that is focused on learning and development. Throwing in a guy who has a poor attitude and has struggled with alcohol issues isn't the best influence on a group of young players who are learning to play the game the right way. They might love him...but at this point, that type of signing probably isn't the best now that the ship is finally moving in the right direction after 12 years.... Fair. I don't disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 30 minutes ago, steveno89 said: I cringe every time I see that name Just so everyone knows, Fernando Tatis is currently hitting .219/.275/.453 in AA. He has 47/10 K-to-BB ratio. He is still hitting for power with 6 long ones. Certainly an aggressive assignment to AA for a 19 year old and his last 2 weeks have actually improved his numbersdrastically, but Sox fans would have been jumping off a cliff if Tatis was doing that in this organization. Tatis may end up being the real deal, and he no doubt would be a nice guy to have around, but this isn't some sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, steveno89 said: What would we even be willing to surrender to trade for Matt Harvey hypothetically? He was pretty brutal this season. Essentially nothing. Teams are waiting for him to be released, so in reality if we were willing to pick up even part of his salary, we will give up nothing of consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Tony said: I would hope Sox fans would be a little more rational than that. (I'm probably expecting too much). There is zero doubt in my mind that lots of people on this board would have been and would continue to be freaking out about that kind of numbers from a top 10 prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tony said: I would hope Sox fans would be a little more rational than that. Of course Tatis isn't a "sure thing" as those don't really exist in baseball, but as a 19 year old in AA, some struggles were to be expected. Check back in July, see where Tatis is then. 🤸♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Just so everyone knows, Fernando Tatis is currently hitting .219/.275/.453 in AA. He has 47/10 K-to-BB ratio. He is still hitting for power with 6 long ones. Certainly an aggressive assignment to AA for a 19 year old and his last 2 weeks have actually improved his numbersdrastically, but Sox fans would have been jumping off a cliff if Tatis was doing that in this organization. I would hope not considering he basically skipped high A ball at 19, but there are meatball fans out there.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Yay, another Tatis thread. I'm almost rooting against the kid just so I don't have to read his name for the next 10 years. I'm not a big enough asshole to root against a 19 year old kid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Rosenthal says the Mets are confident they’ll trade him. I can’t imagine what teams are offering. If the Sox are offering anything, what? I can’t even guess it has to be so minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just now, flavum said: Rosenthal says the Mets are confident they’ll trade him. I can’t imagine what teams are offering. If the Sox are offering anything, what? I can’t even guess it has to be so minimal. Even if a team is willing to pick up say a million dollars ("cash considerations") that is a plus for the Mets who are going to release him if they can't find a trade partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 How about trading James Shields for him? We open up a spot for Harvey, reduce salary even further, and obtain a player with potential trade value later in the season if Coop can fix him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, sin city sox fan said: How about trading James Shields for him? We open up a spot for Harvey, reduce salary even further, and obtain a player with potential trade value later in the season if Coop can fix him. Why would the Mets do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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